Again, well spoken. I'm not very political and I absolutely believe that regardless of who you are, you should be able to share your opinion. However, Free speech doesn't mean no consequences, and I think as a CEO, it's important to know when something you say could effect your users views.
With that, they're governed by board of more than just him so I'm not feeling just yet. Regardless of my believes, him sharing his opinions doesn't bother me directly but can definitely leave a bad taste.
Very well spoken and I fully agree with you. My mistake for the "Logs" on the VPN part as I know, from what's public, that it is no logs, with a previous audit in mid 2024. I think what I was really trying to say was that what if they slowly started to change policies more and more to where they keep some sort of identifiable info, or logs.
Either way, thanks for the very detailed conversation. Just playing devil's advocate here for open conversation. I'm personally very happy with protons services as of now.
Thanks for sharing. I think this is a concern because if they did it for mail, would they do it for the VPN?
I would be more concerned if it turned out the VPN logs were turned over. Because in that seems like a much bigger issue.
What I was referencing was the political news recently with their CEO. Lotta people up in arms about that one. However I haven't heard of the email one. Was that the one where the Users IP got leaked/turned over?
Any links you can share?
While the original comment has validity, I think it's important to know that a lot of the proton news you'll find is very "drop it immediately" biased.
I definitely think the news left a bad taste that's worth keeping an eye on, but I don't think it should eliminate them completely as an option. Especially for newer privacy advocates.
Edit: full disclosure for future readers, I may be biased as well since I do continue to use proton services and I love it. But I still try to look at both sides on things like this.
Yeah. I'm trying to compromise based on "threat level" but I'm also happy to try a way to f*** over the data tracking/profiling anyway I can. Lol
Awesome explanation. Thank you! I've been getting more into privacy and security here and there and I've also degoogled with graphene, run brave with strict blocking, VPN with ad blocking, etc. I knew JavaScript could be bad but never looked into it much. I may make that my next endeavor.
Pardon my ignorance but HTTPS certs can be middle manned? Could you give me a TLDR of how if you got some time?
Question on that topic, is blocking JavaScript generally advised in browser settings? I've tried it once or twice and noticed things like login buttons might not work. Any difference with using the extensions?
I will definitely check this out. Sounds really promising from the quick glimpse and most importantly, affordable.
Edit: gesture typing made me type adorable lol.
Any specific ones to look into?
Adding to this, pipepipe (for YouTube) on f droid is amazing. Not sure where it's based but they do great work.