I see what you mean, that's a fair warning. You're still making me feel like I'm missing something major though. Technical hurdles by design you say?

Unless we're talking different things here, my understanding was that a large enough entity could theoreticaly control a large number of haveno accounts and collect all the off-chain data. Not strictly a haveno issue.

Google lies

That top right X for closing a window, it can be placed top left. Give it a try.

In that sense, bitcoin is already working great and why should anyone ever bother anymore.

The issue has been discussed in the past, it is a real issue and many have already voiced concerns. I'm glad I see people bringing it up every now and then, I would get suspicious if none did.

I get that, I was just making sure I wasn't missing anything

I get that. What I don't get is how these would help centralize power given they mine at the same efficiency (at best) as everything else.

You're absolutely right. I'm just saying give it another week or so, near release things can get out of hand quickly. And post back whatever the outcome, I'm sure I wasn't the only one thinking of pre-ordering before reading your post.

Last I checked everything was in pre-order, you weren't supposed to receive anything yet from what I understand. Maybe the expiration message was an automation glitch or something?

Dude, they're mining just like you. What is the big deal?