HalfSalesman

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

So what are you saying, that a Californian progressive who voted for Stein made a dumb choice and the one who voted for Harris made the smart choice?

Blue states are the area where my argument is weakest, but honestly as a means of voting against Trump I'd probably still vote Harris if I lived in Cali. I'm less judgemental of people in solid blue states here voting third party, but I still think voting third party even then introduces future risk of vote splitting, but its a gaussian and temporal risk. So its hard to conceptualize.

Further, doing so and openly stating you intend to do so encourages people in purple and red states to potentially do the same. And lets be completely honest here: third party voters are going to be incredibly vocal about their vote. Third party and non-voters fucking love jerking themselves off about how virtuous they are for not voting for Harris.

Hypothetical, but still, who would you vote for?

I don't know. But not for fucking Jill Stein and can tell you that much. I wouldn't trust her 180 on Ukraine at all and there are other stances of hers I think are dumb. Nor would I likely bother with a different third party. I'd probably look look very closely at my options between red and blue. And I'd probably grit my teeth and vote for Biden depending on how he campaigned but I'd not be nearly as terrified since Trump is out of the picture.

And that's the rub: in your scenario fascism is not on the ballot. The stakes are significantly lower. So the details would matter more.

Did Harris even publicly utter the phrases “ranked balloting” or “proportional representation” in 2024?

I don't think she did, but neither did Trump. And in fact Trump is largely interested in destroying what little democracy we have.

I'm going to be honest though, it might as well all be hypothetical. Americans are fucked. Its game over, and we very very much deserve what's coming.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What if I don't give a flying fuck about Biden? And I find both the people dancing about his nearing demise and the people clutching their pearls about that fucking stupid? There are almost certainly more important things of substance to place your energy into.

I'm so fucking tired.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

So if they feel the need to desexualize men and leave women in sexual roles, it tells me something about how they see women.

It tells you how they see people they're attracted to. Which happens to be women. (and maybe men but they're denying that potentiality to themselves possibly)

I find both men and women physically attractive, but I do not find all men and women physically attractive. If I installed a mod that de-sexualized certain people but not by gender, would that mean I'm objectifying the people I find attractive?

Culture obviously plays a role here in making men see women as merely potential sexual play things. Even when I thought I was straight I never understood this on a personal level, because a major factor in finding someone sexy for me is precisely that they are not an object.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (9 children)

That's what I suspected you meant. I agree that it is (partially) irrelevant to the topic of this post, but still I think its interesting enough that I want to engage with it if you don't mind.

Sexualization is not intrinsically objectification. It can be but you'd have to make an assumption about their motivations for installing such a mod that I think is unrealistic in that case.

Further, keeping character's you find attractive sexy and de-sexing characters who you (think you) find unnattractive on your own local private play through seems like something a person would do for the sake of enhancing a private fantasy. It'd be that they are treating the game as at least partly an erotic experience would be my assumption that would be damaged for them if the sexualization of certain character hurts that experience for them.

Of course I should reiterate that I've not played the game. So I might be missing some context. I have played Skyrim loaded with, ah-hem... certain mods. And I know why I installed those, and it wasn't because I wanted to embrace objectification.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Yes, I think it’s from Twain.

Its commonly misattributed to him.

I backed my assertions with stats, however poor you think they are as analysis.

Your assertion is too vague to rebut directly. And I did not say stats are "poor analysis" I said using stats on their own without the background in contextualizing stats makes any analysis nearly worthless.

What do yo back up your assertions with, other than lame DNC, CNN, and Vaush talking points?

So you already have made up your mind about what and how I think allowing you to dismiss my actual points contained in my post, which you've conveniently ignored.

So I'll repost my most important point: The core fact remains that voting for a third party under a first past the post system is risking permitting the greater evil to win.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (11 children)

I assume just Asterion's given that's what the tweet suggests.

If it were all male characters and none of the female characters I’d be more concerned about sexism than homophobia. But that’s just me.

That's an interesting take, could you elaborate?

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

That's a good point, but IDK if that'd mean they consent to all sexual content in the sense that they might have some ignorant expectations of what they'll find in the game with that rating.

This is obviously extremely tame compared to some of the stuff they probably just stumble over on the internet. Though obviously, they don't consent to it if they decide to specifically install this mod.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As much as I hate private ownership of the means of production, her death is tied more to Musk and Republicans. And everyone even slightly responsible for Trump's victory through action or inaction.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm the arbiter of who I trust is arguing coherently or in good faith and I am ultimately not trusting of the average internet poster by default.

I've been arguing on dedicated internet debate spaces for a very very large portion of my life and I have a good eye for when someone isn't worth being taken seriously.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (15 children)

I have complicated feelings on this. (Note: I've yet to play BG3, I will eventually)

I'm bisexual, so I'd never ever install this mod. But I feel as though that I can't say someone is explicitly wrong for doing so. Maybe they're not the kind of person I'd want to interact with, and maybe I might not be able to help but judge them a little, but its their prerogative.

Like, should a person be expected to expose themselves to something they see as sexual if it makes them uncomfortable? Even if that discomfort stems from homophobia or fear of discovering that they are bi/gay? Like, this arguably is an issue of whatever the player consents to seeing.

It being included in the anti-woke modlist is funny though.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's not a critique of democrats, that's a critique of a portion of democrats and all of republicans.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Election stats? You ever hear the phrase "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics"

Stats on their own given a poor analysis of an average joe/jane can mislead just as much if not more than a talking head can.

The core fact remains that voting for a third party under a first past the post system is risking permitting the greater evil to win.

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