CoyoteFacts

It could be both, but often I see downvotes used strongly when information is actually incorrect or misleading, regardless of whether the person is trying to be pleasant or not. I guess that upvotes on a post like this could be mistaken for agreement. If the OP was instead phrased as a question it probably wouldn't be downvoted.

I think it's more of a result of OP conflating this with an "average" Debian experience. Who knows if Kali (downstream) or the user made a frankendebian, and who knows what they've done to their install before this log. Using Kali for an improper reason doesn't give a lot of bonus points in our trust that this is not user-induced.

Do you think they're actually friends or like work friends?

Yeah that sounds about right. It also depends on which indexers you're using, as I imagine the more public indexers will have a higher chance of getting takedowns from trolls. It's worth noting that I believe the running theory is that a lot of 2021-2023 articles were voluntarily deleted to save space, resulting in issues even for .nzbs that weren't takedown'd. It's also theorized (and outright stated sometimes) that providers do silently delete data that is rarely or never accessed as well to save space, so that can be a random issue too.

Personally, I lean more into torrent technology because usenet can be fickle for these reasons even if you're in the secret indexers, whereas if you're in at least some semi-good private torrent trackers you'll never have completion issues (just potentially slower downloads). I also feel like usenet's scalability, future, and pricing is sort of uncertain.

It's generally better to instead have more indexers, or indexers that repost stuff. Articles on the various providers often get taken down at the same time, so while it's not a bad idea to get a lot of blocks just in case, you'll get a better chance of completion by just trying a different .nzb

The lifetime prices actually don't seem that bad depending on your usecase (mine is solely redundant backups). Compared against Backblaze B2 for backup or a VPS service you'd come out ahead after a few years. I pay $50 for a 2TB VPS yearly, which I also use as a public IP reverse proxy/etc. Of course, "lifetime" means "for the life of the service" and all that, as well storage may not scale forever into the future, and companies usually tend to mess around with older lifetime deals after 5-10 years, but on paper it's slightly tempting. Anyone have any tiebreakers?

Edit: I think I'd be kneecapped trying to find a cheap enough VPS to switch to that still fits my bandwidth needs. It would still be like minimum $20/year, in which case the price difference would be resolving at ~$30/year, which isn't really fast enough to not consider this a risk or push.

As far as I'm aware this is true (same with a lot of desktop linux distros), but I'm more interested in freeing myself from Android at the moment. I'm sure we can get there eventually w/r/t security, but it takes time, and we'll never get there if we don't start moving.

To me it reads like Graphene is saying /e/ is "actively attacking" them as a puppet of the government of France. How do you reconcile them both being perfectly good when either one is engaging in this behavior, or one is lying about it? It's okay to support both projects overall and not agree with every action they take, but that doesn't mean you have to turn a blind eye to accountability when they are making bad choices (to put it lightly). In any other project, criticism would lead to positive changes and correction of bad behavior. Because Graphene doesn't work like that, I think it's important to understand their history so that everyone is more informed when they make serious accusations about other innocent projects like this.

It mainly makes me pine for linux phones. I think Graphene is the best we have at the moment in the mobile space, but that's far more of a testament to our lack of options than how valuable Graphene is. I have no doubts that we'll eventually kick Graphene to the curb when it stops being useful, so I'm not overly concerned with its future. Worst-case, I think many of us would be just fine on any other AOSP rom for a few extra years until linux phones can come save us all.

I'm implying that most normal people would not give their consent to it, or would be coerced by the app into giving consent when they don't understand what it means (e.g. Windows Delivery Optimization).

I think that the idea of an app "stealing" bandwidth from its users because they want to save money on their own servers is a pretty bad look. Our current world is still not that great w/r/t internet quality, price, and availability, and it was surely worse in the past. It could definitely be more of a thing in the future, but maybe only for stuff used by techy people who could understand it and give proper consent.

This is actually a really relevant note, because all of us are the "wolf-watchers" in that sense. We're all trying to keep track of accountability on stuff like this and use what little power we have to protest and counteract government overreach and abuse. When hyperbole and gaslighting are used by those "crying wolf" it makes our jobs that much more difficult. Even after reading through the HN thread I still am not sure if the threat is real or imagined. There are a couple paranoid leaps in logic asserted as fact, and that makes it impossible to know which other "facts" are actually just opinions. By all means, they should GTFO of France if they feel they might be threatened, but turning around and saying they're being imminently attacked by France makes it so much harder to understand what's actually happening.