CinnasVerses

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[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All the legal and regulatory uncertainties make it very hard to talk about the financial viability of chatbots. What do you do if your $20 billion model is shut down forever by court order after it counsels the wrong person into suicide? Piper can overlook this because she is a hack with patrons - to my knowledge, she has never been paid to write by anyone outside the EA world. If she were a working writer who had to deal with chatbots driving up the cost of her website, creating knockoffs of her novels, and competing for editing gigs (let alone someone whose friend had a mental crisis after talking too long with friend computer) she might sound different.

Zitron's populist, conspiratorial tone reminds me of independent investigative reporters from the 1990s and 2000s who also had to find and keep paying readers. Piper just has to persuade one patron at a time that she has propaganda value.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I advise being very cautious about consuming Zitron's posts, but the same is true of Piper. Many coders are using chatbots, but I don't know of evidence that it makes them more productive since the "where is all the AI code?" study last year (especially when we consider the whole software lifecycle and not just lines of code pushed to codeberg).

The paragraph about "what if you assume that all these pathological liars and PR hacks are not lying, wouldn't that imply something amazing?" reminds me that she is not trained as a journalist.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The foursome had been on the lot for a few months when the pandemic struck in March 2020. That same month, the price of Bitcoin — in which most of Borhanian’s life savings was invested, money that was covering much of the group’s expenses at that time — cratered. Soon after, the four of them stopped paying rent to Lind altogether.

Aella also lost much of her early earnings on crypto.

Curtis Lind reminds me of the businessman who supported Elron early on and lost most of his money.

The end where Gwen Danielson decides that Yudkowsky is ~~her~~ their savior is tragic.

edit/ The article describes Danielson as transfemme but refers to them as them so I will do the same

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago

I think building codes and zoning reform are good topics to get into in rich English-speaking countries but you have to 1) learn from actual experts not x.com/wiseAss1488, and 2) engage in local politics and policy and not just post to nerds around the world.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

Who TF was using LED lights for indoor lighting in the 1990s? Compact flourescents were the lightbulb replacement in the oughties.

And how TF do you write that post without using the phrase "sensory sensitivity" and citing some women who know they have autism? Once you know you are more sensitive to your environment than allistics, you can start to experiment with interventions.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago

Ex-CEO, ex-CFO of bankrupt AI company iLearningEngines charged with fraud - Reuters, 17 April 2026

Prosecutors said iLearning marketed itself as an artificial intelligence-driven digital education ​company with an "out-of-the-box AI platform," and claimed to earn revenue mainly by selling ​licenses for its educational and training platforms to customers, including healthcare companies and schools.

According to the ‌indictment, ⁠the defendants used forged sham contracts to make it seem that iLearning's customers were real, and used "round trip" transfers of investor and lender funds -- meaning they sent money to purported customers, who then returned it to iLearning -- to manufacture revenue.

At least ​90% of iLearning's $421 million ​of reported revenue ⁠in 2023 was fabricated, the indictment said.

I think they called this wash trading in cryptoland.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

There is quite a contrast between the call for conscription (6.), the whining that civil servants have too much pay and respect (8.) and the praise for public life (9. We should show far more grace towards those who have subjected themselves to public life. 18. The ruthless exposure of the private lives of public figures drives far too much talent away from government service.) I think he means that earning a living wage for getting up every morning rain or shine and delivering an old man's bank statements is BAD, but if you accept a modest position as Chief Technology Officer or Cabinet Secretary nobody should be allowed to criticize you.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

The notorious socialists at the (checks notes) World Economic Forum rank social mobility in the USA as 27th in the world behind Sweden, Germany, Canada, and Japan (!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States So this seems like another demonstration that being very rich is like being kicked in the head by a horse or drinking a bottle of wine a day.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Steelmanning is making the best possible argument for a position, whereas CEV is sorting out all the delusions and contradictions in someone's thinking and giving them what they would want if they were wise enough to know it. Central bankers engage in extrapolated volition when they try to make the economy run in a way that will make people happy, even if what they do is not what the woman on the street wants them to do because the woman on the street has no idea how the economy works. Friends engage in extrapolated volition when they intervene in a marriage or a drinking bout and say "you are ruining your life, and we are stopping it now." Extrapolated volition is paternalistic ("you think you want that, but I know better ...") and Yudkowsky's CEV would demand God the Father. Yud's original paper is available.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

It is a bit more than that: CEV is what he would want if he were wiser and less confused. Yudkowsky's vision was that we want a lot of things which are contradictory or conflict with others or will make us sad, but Friend Computer could sort that out. But talking your friend into going to an event or trying a new food which she actually likes when she tries it is definitely in the spirit.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That third post could have been interesting, because there was a school of thought that Vladimir Putin was an Antonio Salazar or Lord Vetinari who wanted the good for his country and was willing to do whatever that took. But now it is clear that he is a Russian nationalist who still believes what his textbooks told him when he was 14. Even if he were better informed about the facts, a Putin who did not want ethnic Russians to dominate the former USSR would not be Vladimir Putin.

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