[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Whisked off into space by what, exactly?

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A large swarm of satellites, forming an adjustable solar shade, sitting around L1 for Earth-Sun is likely the best approach we would have. The swarm wouldn't be in a geosynchronous orbit, though, but instead a heliosynchronous one.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, good! That's excellent then.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That would essentially be patching the vulnerability. A temporary fix would be just preventing the sidebar from being editable.

(Ideally the vulnerability would be patched, but these things take time.)

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I suggest reading my entire comment.

I did, buddy. You're just wrong. You can copyright data. A work can be "just data". Again, we're not talking about a set of measurements of the natural world.

It's only a work if your brain is a work. (...) The weights that make up a neural network represent encodings into neurons, and as such should be treated the same way as neural encodings in a brain.

Okay, I see how you have the hot take that a generative model is brain-like to you, but that's a hot take -- it's not a legally accepted fact that a trained model is not a work.

You understand that, right? You do get that this hasn't been debated in court, and what you think is correct is not necessarily how the legal system will rule on the matter, yeah?

Because the argument that a trained generative model is a work is also pretty coherent. It's a thing that you can distribute, even monetise. It isn't a person, it isn't an intelligence, it's essentially part of a program, and it's the output of labour performed by someone.

The fact that something models neurons does not mean it can't be a work. That's not... coherent. You've jumped from A to Z and your argument to get there is "human brain has neurons". Like, okay? Does that somehow mean anything that is vaguely neuron-like is not a work? So if I make a mechanical neuron, I can't copyright it? I can't patent it?

No, that's absurd.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No, I know how these neural nets are trained and how they're structured. They really don't contain any identifiable copies of the material used to train it.

Go back and read my comment in full, please. I addressed that directly.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It’s not a technical split, but an ethicsl split.

It's less than an ethical split, actually. If A does not federate Threads, but B does, Threads still does not meaningfully impact the experience of users on A. No defederation between A and B is needed for A to maintain their desired experience.

As such, there isn't a split. There's an ethical difference, but the impact is negligible, and thus it doesn't require disassociation, which would be what an "ethical split" would be.

Until recently the fediverse took pride in the fact that they watched out for eachother. If tgere was an instance that didn’t moderate nazis, they defederated or at least muted it.

Or if they were Beehaw, and the other instance got too big. lemmy.ml soft-blocked HTTP requests from the KbinBot. And so on and so forth. Add in all the drama that went down in Mastodon between instances. You're painting a very rosy picture of a tidy, well-behaved Fediverse when in reality it's been pretty messy.

Not that this is relevant, as mentioned above.

Now, that the instance in question is run by a corporation with a history of bad moderation, desinforamation and hate-speech they get the benefit of doubt, because (...)

Again, this isn't relevant in the context of causing a split. Let's assume Threads is full of Nazis. 100% of users are Nazis. No! 200% of Threads users are Nazis!

None of those Nazis will be able to get content onto A in the earlier example, at least not from within Threads. If A wants to block Threads, they can just do that. Blocklists don't have to be common between other instances, it literally doesn't matter.

Thus [Meta] will not let the rest of the fediverse become competition.

Meta does not have a way to impact Fediverse projects without the consent of the project they attempt to impact. They cannot "stop" Mastodon or Lemmy or Kbin in any way. It's FOSS.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Why exactly do you believe that a partial mass-defederation of Threads would "split" the fediverse? That's not how interactions between instances works.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

We have the foreknowledge of seeing EEE happen with XMPP/Google Chat, now. We can fight back against EEE against ActivityPub as it actually happens, with instances defederating with Meta and so on, when they start actually taking those negative actions. It's gonna be fine.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You can't. You're trying to do something on kbin.social (or another kbin instance), which isn't the instance you're on.

If you want to use kbin, you'll need to, well, use kbin. The instances talk to each other, but you don't have an account on one just from having an account on the other.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They're Tankies. Don't confuse Tankies and communists, even if there's a certain historical adjacency there. They are ultimately different concepts.

[-] ChemicalRascal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The submersible that imploded near the Titanic wreck.

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