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[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mention Schumer being a Dem who acts like a Pub, as if he is a fringe member of the party and not a DNC leader. How can you view Democrats as "sometimes good policy, sometimes very bad policy" when someone like Schumer has been in leadership for decades? The fish rots from the head, so to speak.

I think your framing of Obama (and then Biden)'s immigration policies is generous to the point of dishonesty. Let's assume you are right and Obama's second term was gentler and wiser and only went after bad guys; and we both agree on the definition of a bad guy. Biden's term, after seeing what Trump did with ICE, made no effort to put in guardrails while continuing Obama's second-term enlightened immigration actions (again, for the sake of argument, I'm agreeing with your point; in fact, ICE under Biden illegally deported an American citizen right before the midterms, but I digress). At what point do you fault blue presidents for not lifting a finger to stop future red presidents from being able to do so much damage from the executive branch? Obama was the constitutional professor who was going to fix the Bush administration's power grab. Instead, he ruled as if he had adopted the Unified Executive theory when he swore the oath at the inauguration. Coming back to reality, how do you square the Democrats' push for a Biden immigration bill just as draconian as any Republican proposal, particularly throwing DACA recipients under the bus, with your claim that Dems are better on policy?

Codifying Roe would have made reversing it much harder. You mentioned gay marriage. Do you see how much further SCOTUS has to go to knock down that law than it did with Roe? They literally would still be trying to move in that direction instead of being years into the decision. Any thoughts on Biden not doing anything to counter Dobbs, even though the ruling was leaked before the decision was announced? The old bastard failed to respond; instead, as I said, he spoke to a room full of donors about not supporting "abortion on demand". Like, when the fuck are they supposed to happen, when the mom doesn't want one? Any thoughts on how having a Democratic president at that moment was any better than having a Republican?

You didn't address Obama's flip-flop on gay marriage in your paragraph on gay marriage. Not sure what you are trying to say there other than Obama was a reactionary president, something I fully agree with and hold against him. That is exactly how W was.

Again, we end where we have been landing. We both think Republicans are 'demons'. I think Democrats are demons with better PR. You think they are good-faith actors, ineffective at preventing demons from being demonic. So my last question is, why support them if they are not good at battling the demons?

PS: I appreciate the time you have taken to debate an anonymous malcontent on the internet.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Not sure what Comey has to do with Democrats being more similar to Republicans than they are different, but there is no question that Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information, as have literally every Secretary of State since Colin Powell. I know people personally who have been punished for less than what they did when it comes to classified materials, and it would have cost the DNC nothing to not shove her down our throats in 2016. On the contrary, her enabling a known sex pest for decades would have made it the perfect time to publicly and loudly throw her under the bus like they did Al Franken.

Stop including immigration. It does not help your argument. Obama was called the "deporter-in-chief" because he broke records for the number of people removed from the country. He separated kids from guardians like Trump, but he didn't advertise it as a way of trying to deter those fleeing places we helped make unsafe. If you think this is a measurable difference in policy, you might be a mainstream Dem.

The only reason gay marriage is legal is that Republicans pressed their luck with the Defense of Marriage Act, and Biden managed to guafe his way into making Obama reverse the position he held when he was elected the first time. How brave!!!!! There is no doubt that there will be more than a few prominant democrats who join the Republicans to strip that right away when the time comes.

Democrats had literal decades to codify Roe, but instead they used it as an evergreen issue to fundraise on. When the inevitable finally happened, Biden could have directed the military bases in states that outlawed abortion to set up places on federal land to provide health care to women in those states and restore their rights. But he didn't do that. Instead, he gave a speech to a roomful of donors and regurgitated anti-choice talking points he learned from the Pope.

Tell me again what Democrats did to counter the Republicans stealing the SCOTUS seat that Obama appointed a lifelong Republican to, but instead went to a lifelong republican appointed by Trump? That's right, they put together a committee that failed to recommend anything.

I don't understand how anyone can be so upset with Republicans, but not mind Democrats.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

I am old enough to remember when AOC lied about Green Party candidates and tried to suppress their votes when progressives who had been holding their nose and voting DNC warned they could not do it while the party enthusiastically supported Israel's right to genocide their fellow citizens.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

And we will still see articles claiming that China is our adversary. If that were the case, this would be a great time to start shit. But what will happen is that China will still be a boogeyman, allowing the US to spend even more money to "protect" ourselves and expedite munition manufacturing.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 65 points 6 days ago (6 children)

This is correct. AQ declared war on the US, designating the WTC as a target in their war based on the same logic the US uses when looking for targets to blow up: economic hubs are fair game, and civilian casualties are collateral damage even when directly targeted.

Good for the CBC on ending the gaslighting.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago

"We should start a domestic education program allowing the working class to learn how to clean the gears for free if they spend 4 years rounding up kids to throw in there".

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 days ago

It's been like that since the start of the war on terror. The US can label anyone (including US citizens) they want as a terrorist and kill them and their family despite no due process.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

They are covering up the fact that I chopped his head off weeks ago. Prove me wrong, GOP.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Garland dragged his feet on Jan 6 charges, prompting Republicans who had previously voiced support for prosecuting him to regroup and change tactics, allowing the process to drag out until the election. Why did Biden appoint a GOP AG that was never going to be aggressive? It could be classified as a mistake, but it was completely foreseeable.

As for Biden's immigration push, the bill Trump killed by telling the GOP not to support it in order to deny Biden a "win" was awful. It was everything the Republicans wanted, and Dems didn't even include DACA protections, sacrificing immigrants once again to try to "own" the other party by demonstrating they are not interested in passing laws, something that everyone who is paying attention already understands. Biden also gave away a bunch of basic things in his environmental decisions. I mean, why allow drilling in ANWR? Who was that for? Even the things people are pointing to as a reason to have supported Biden are filled with poison.

You see a larger distinction between the parties than I do. I see republicans boiling puppies alive while Democrats stab them. Yeah, there is a difference, but not a demonstrable one.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

I only said one of those things. Pearl Harbor was a result of US sanctions on Japan. It wasn't out of nowhere, as you claimed earlier.

[–] 456456@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/largest-mass-execution-us-history-150-years-ago-today/

Perhaps this is the largest mass execution of Indians, whereas the Trail of Tears killed more in total?

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