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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Active users as of June 25, 2023:

  • lemmy.world (48k users): 13554 active users
  • lemmy.ml (38k users): 4582 active users
  • beehaw.org (11k users): 3743 active users
  • feddit.de (6.7k users): 2320 active users
  • sh.itjust.works (6.5k users): 2167 active users
  • lemmy.ca (3.5k users): 1082 active users

Great to see all this growth and activity in different lemmy instances!

Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

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[-] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 3 points 1 year ago

That's great and imma let you finish but remember that decentralization is strength on the fediverse. Join or create other instances, join or create communities on other instances, thats our strength.

On the fediverse, instances come and go. I've seen big instances go down either permanently or temporarily, and ive also seen big communities decide they're turning off federation. The only way to be safe from that is to decentralize, so if something happens there's still something worth doing on the fediverse.

Besides that though, congratulations lemmy.world, I love to see the thrediverse Renaissance we're in, and nothing but love for the folks running this instance and the folks participating on it.

[-] Negative_Pair_5694@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Also lemmy.world is extremely slow in pushing out messages to other instances, if at all. So leading the pack is not necessarily the best thing until you figure out scaling.

[-] UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I've been missing a ton of comment replies from lemmy.world and it's frustrating. I am wondering if it's because they're still on 0.17.4 instead of 0.18.

[-] neblem@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think that's the main issue. Hopefully 18.1 can be released soon so they can upgrade too.

[-] terribleplan@lemmy.nrd.li 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they should really consider not accepting new users until that is figured out, honestly. There are plenty of servers out there that people can join at this point. Too much centralization in a decentralized system for my liking regardless of instance scaling.

[-] egeres@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's awesome to see the growth, but as a small question, why don't all the instances upgrade to version 0.18? Maybe that version isn't stable enough?

[-] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

0.18 removed checks and balances to limit bot signups. lemmy.world won't upgrade until this is in place.

[-] JujuT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

lemmy.world is probably leading because it’s easy to sign up

[-] SolDaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I mean, i would rather have an easy sign up then go through a shitty purity test like beehaw.org makes you go through.

[-] AskThinkingTim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Back in my day lemmy.ml was the biggest instance.

[-] tamtt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Account age: 1 week

Yep checks out

[-] TeaHands@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I joined world because it was the little one, with like 100 active users according to the stats on the signup page. Hmph.

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

More users does not ALWAYS mean a good thing.

[-] average650@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What counts as an active user? Voting? Commenting? Posting?

[-] Rogue_General@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What counts as an active user? Voting? Commenting? Posting?

Submitting a comment or post. AFAIK upvoting/downvoting doesn't count, at least for Lemmy's numbers.

Kbin is looser with the definition, I think they even count accounts that simply vote among active users.

[-] SolDaMan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Hello All, First time poster here. I would just like to say that i tried signing up for beehaw.org but they have some kind of purity test that reminds me of Reddit. Don’t ever sign up for beehaw, that is going to be one hell of a drama filled instance.

[-] Daisy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Drama? Ooooh brb

[-] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 0 points 1 year ago

Ironically all of the drama and complaining seems to be coming from instances outside of Beehaw, being dramatic and complaining about Beehaw. The content there is actually good.

[-] gila@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Really it's just drama caused by the platform not maturing yet. Beehaw's reasons behind defederating from large instances like lemmy.world are valid, but it's not like other instances made them do it. It's a choice they made to be able to create the space they want in lieu of proper mod tools. Hope they realise it won't be an overnight fix, and the longer they stick to their guns the greater the risk of their communities fizzling out, which would be a shame as I agree they are some of the best.

[-] favrion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Who is Lemmy? Is this an underground movement thing on the dark web or something?

[-] betheydocrime@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Ian Fraser Kilmister (24 December 1945 – 28 December 2015), better known as Lemmy Kilmister or simply Lemmy, was an English musician. He was the founder, lead singer, bassist and primary songwriter of the rock band Motörhead, of which he was the only continuous member, and a member of Hawkwind from 1971 to 1975.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Good time to appreciate the lack of dominant centrality here compared to mastodon.

Mastodon's flagship instance run by the BDFL, mastodon.social, has ~10 times the monthly active users of the next biggest instance.

Here, there isn't really a flagship instance, as the devs don't want their instance to be anything more than the one they happen to run, and it's not the biggest, and the biggest is independent of the lemmy dev team and isn't even that much bigger than the others.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That might also be a response to what users were asking for. Signing up for a server confused the shit out of everyone. It was to the point where Mastodon’s confusing onboarding process was frequently being covered by major media outlets across the globe.

Instead of continuing to iterate on sever selection experience, they just started to say “fuck it” and started dumping everyone into .social.

[-] DoctorTYVM@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Which is the only way they're ever going to work. It's a major barrier to sign ups. If the fediverse is actually going to take off one of the Lemmy sites will have to become the dominant one

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

If the tools for discovering and subscribing to communities could be improved so it becomes dead easy to subscribe to communities on any instance from any instance, that might not need to happen.

Right now the process of having to search for each community and subscribe is too clunky. And if someone posts a link to another community it often comes up in a format that takes you to the other instance, where you have no account so can't subscribe. We need a way to share links to other communities that incorporates an easy "subscribe" button that talks to your own instance.

It would be nice to have some index or search result page that lists communities on all instances, with a subscribe button next to each.

If these things can be smoothed out, it won't matter too much which instance you have your account on, so that will be less of an obstacle to new users.

[-] soupspoon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Lemmyverse.net does that really well, I think. At the top you can click the house icon and put in your instance, then whatever community you search for or find by scrolling through the list, you can just click on and subscribe

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, that is good, though there seems to be a bug in version 0.18 which means that when you click through the Subscribe button doesn't show up (just the word "Subscribe" where it should be), so you end up having to search for the community anyway to subscribe. Once that bug is fixed though it will be nice and convenient.

Edit: I found another workaround: If when you first click through to the community the Subscribe button isn't shown (for me it just shows the word "Subscribe" but it's not a button), then change the "Hot/Active/New/etc." dropdown to a different value. This refreshes the page and the Subscribe button appears.

[-] syl@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Good. It is important to have different instances to distribute the load though. However, I hope there are not many people joining BeeHaw...

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I hope there are not many people joining BeeHaw…

I don't hope that, exactly, I just hope that the people who join understand what they're getting (and, more importantly, what they aren't). I fully support a community with a different goal than most, and their goal seems like a wholesome one. I personally think it's doomed to failure, but I support them giving it a try. They're barely part of the fediverse though.

As long as people understand the circumstances of that instance I have absolutely no problem with people finding the place they belong.

I just hope there are not new users who don't realize they may not be federated with the larger community.

[-] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Whats wrong with beehaw? I got a couple really active, good communities from there in my feed

[-] Pili@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

They block a shit ton of instances, not always for good reasons. Often to maintain an echo chamber.

[-] hellodub@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Why not beehaw? Did something happen?

[-] ipha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They've defederated from both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. They're still a good community, but I don't consider them part of the fediverse at this point.

[-] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Regardless of what happened, beehaw is not for everyone.

They aim to be a safe haven for people that are afraid to be harassed for who they are. It's a noble goal IMO but to achieve that, they have to moderate their instance quite heavily.

If you're not their target audience, you'll find it too restrictive.

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