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The Black Mirror plot about AI that worries actors::As actors strike in Hollywood, unions say they want more protection from artificial intelligence.

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[-] counselwolf@lemmy.fmhy.ml 52 points 1 year ago

yeah that black mirror episode couldn't have come a better time.

[-] derpo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I hope this is fictive level 1. I want to be Michael Cera this time

[-] counselwolf@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

nah, if we're in any of the fictivev levels, then everyone should look TV good. Even the "ugly" ones should still look good.

Unless... the people in reality are so ugly that we in fictive level 1 would look good in the eyes of reality...

[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Black mirror episodes will start to becom reality one be one

[-] 99nights@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen it yet nor do I plan to because fuck Netflix. What's the plot of this episode that has everyone worried?

[-] Vendul@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Your life is the script for a TV series. The actor looks almost identical to you. You do not get paid. You have no saying. Everyone in you life will distance themselves from you because they can see behind the curtain; who you really are.

[-] Dougas@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

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[-] Kururin@talk.kururin.tech 48 points 1 year ago

Everything black mirror has covered has came true at some point or might will. This issue is also coming true. The writers and actors need to make sure they don’t get fucked over by the AI and the greedy corporations. All power to them.

[-] Orange@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago

I cannot wait for the day a world leader fucks a pig on live TV!

[-] aquarisces@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I’m waiting to play VR Tekken with a buddy of mine

[-] mrmanager@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago

We are getting there. At least the psycho tech leaders Musk and Zuck would probably love to take part.

[-] cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

I've tried to keep an open mind about AI as a tool. Humanity has lots of problems and maybe AI is necessary to share a planet with 8 billion people. That said, the people blindly embracing AI seem to miss the fact that they're controlled by large corporations motivated by profit not benevolence.

Also, it really is Black Mirror-esque that the first things we train our AI to automate out are creative in nature. Art, performance, writing, etc. These things make us humans and give us joy.

[-] Zebov@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

At this point I think it's just giving people ideas

[-] TheyKeepOnRising@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The most unbelievable thing about the entire episode is that the lawyers believed the 100 page term and conditions would hold up in court.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The court is probably a AI as well.

[-] O_i@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Why is the argument always about the AI and not the scumbag suits at the top using it for harm.

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 20 points 1 year ago

I thought the episode was so-so, especially compared to the two after it, but yeah it did age very well very quickly.

[-] aquarisces@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Agreed with it being so-so compared to the two after but also prior seasons and episodes of Black Mirror. This episode reminded me of an episode I watched of “Extrapolations” on Apple TV (the ep with Marion Cotillard) in that it was a great idea but the execution of it felt off.

[-] outbound5231@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Did you feel that it's so-so because it's way closer to reality than other episodes?

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really. It just felt a little too "out there" in my opinion compared to other Black Mirror episodes. I imagine those who didn't like the Ashley Too/Miley Cyrus episode had similar complaints with Season 5 in general.

It's not the worst episode though. U.S.S. Callister takes that crown for me, there was a glaring plothole with the way the DNA transfer worked. How did the memories of the people whose DNA was collected transferred?

[-] chowder@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Dude they have tech that streams directly into their brains. Probably just made a cookie from a scan from one of their game button node things.

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago

There was just something about the episode that didn't grip me tbh, but it wasn't because of it being closer to reality. I'm bad at articulating that sorta thing outside of music lmao.

[-] Kolrami@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Joan is Awful seemed like the most realistic to me of this season. A couple episodes this season were basically fantasy instead of sci-fi.

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago

I actually thought the one after that about the murder documentary was more realistic. More on the drama side of things than a sci-fi but still very Black Mirror.

[-] Kolrami@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah I forgot about that. It was basically normal.

[-] jsveiga@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

AI is coming after all of us.

Why would actors get any better legal protection than other professionals?

[-] Colitas92@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Well, i think they can pretty reasonably argue that the companies can not take their body image «for free forever» like they are trying to do, it is just stealing at that point. If Disney wants to , say, take Harrison Ford body and make an Indiana Jones 6 with ''him'' (an animated rendering of his body), then they have to pay royalties, negotiate a contract, etc with the person, the same way any of them would do with their IPs. In general, everybody should have their body as their own IP really, by default and retroactively. With largely the same rules as the IPs of these mergacorporations, so they enter public domain after a while too ( i really want my AI-generated Buster Keaton short films ... ) The actually analogous situation with us mortals getting replaced by AI, is if the Studios just straight up invent AI actors and actresses from the start and register them as their IP, and does not hire real life actors. So, an AI John Smith, that is just a program owned by Disney that their production uses in films (can we really call then films at this point ? for me everything will just be Animation henceforth). This is more probable in the long term, it even already exists in some subcultures, like some J-pop singers that are programs made by fans.

[-] jsveiga@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

But would it be possible to make AI John Smith "from the start"?

Every AI John Smith characteristic would be based in a real human - unless AI John Smith is a 100% alien lifeform. That applies not only to appearance, but mannerisms, voice, accent, etc.

AI cannot create a 100% "original" human, because it will always be based on information based on real humans.

The analogy is that any text or code "created" by AI is based on learning from texts and code that were written by humans.

Unless Harisson Ford has rights on the "Indiana Jones" franchise, where would be the line for his legal claim? Could AI create a character to play his part that looked nothing like him, but still mimic the way he moved? And how close the resemblance to Harisson Ford could be? Who would judge that?

What about James Bond? So many actors have played it, and there are gestures, sentences, behaviors which are part of the character, not of the actor. How would that be dealt with?

[-] Esjee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Which episode specifically is everyone referring to? I skimmed through the article but couldn't find the name of the episode.

[-] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The first episode of season six, “Joan is Awful”.

[-] Esjee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Oh okay. Didn't know season 6 is out which had me a little confused how I never watched this episode.

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Art imitates life ... or maybe the other way around, depending on when this episode was written.

How much of a trippy meta joke would it be if this episode was actually written by AI?

[-] astropenguin5@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Nice article and whatnot but why is her titty most of the way out of her jacket

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