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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn't "I" also a pronoun? Making this sentence 2/3 pronouns.

At least that's how it works in my native tongue.

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Dang, the pronoun discussion has lead me to forget that pronouns include I, we and they. I'll make use of this.

"What are your pronouns?"

"I / me"

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[–] lauha@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Pretty sure Jesus didn't speak english though. Some people in bible belt might disagree.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I of course don't speak ancient languages, but I believe pronouns existed 2000 years ago too.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, but some languages can drop the pronoun in favor of some other linguistic construct. For example in finnish 'I am driving" can be said "minä ajan" but "minä"(I) can be dropped completely to just "ajan" because base word for driving is "ajaa" and when I am doing it, it is inflected to "ajan"

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's also true of Estonian and Spanish, but in the case of "I am he", you'd shorten away the actor, but not the target of the action, so you'd keep one pronoun still at least.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also the whole theoretical discussion is pointless because we probably have a guess of jesus' native language and knowledge of pronoun system in it

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Aramaic, maybe also Hebrew. Both have pronouns.

[–] WholeEnchilada@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He spoke all the languages! Amen. Praise the lawdy lawdy. Lmao

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No. He spoke American.

Specifically, Southern Baptist American.

[–] WholeEnchilada@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

Hahahaha! I saw (or in southern baptist i think to be correct i seen) this movie on the amazon prime all about how he got born again into other babies in the Mexico. Ripped out that baby's eyes they kept on doing. Who knows? Might be a true story. We're all here praising the lawdy lawdy wasting our time. At least i got crackers and pimiento cheese and a porch to sit on.

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

That’s John assuming Jesus’s pronouns.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

John Jesus Jingleheimer Schmidt

[–] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Joey Jo-jo Jesus Shabadoo

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago

Forgot the next bit!

‭John 18:6 ESV‬

When Jesus said to them, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I usually think grammatical gender is pretty useless in Indo European languages, with most of them having to gender a washing machine, but afro Asiatic ones have a fun additional quirk: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarity_of_gender

Essentially the numbers have to be the opposite gender of whatever it's married to.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Some languages just don't have any genders which is better

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Armenian and Persian are the main Indo European languages that don't have even gendered pronouns. English got halfway there by dropping gendered nouns. The original Indo European language gender was based on if something had a spirit or not, not male or female. It changed into that binary selection early enough that even Sanskrit is gendered with male/female nouns

[–] pikmeir@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Korean is one such language.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You're just jealous because english does not have grammatical gender.

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

This is wild! I have heard many crazy shit but this is new to me

[–] Choosenewagain@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't the capital H in He referring to God? Ie: "I am God". Making it a noun (person, place or thing) rather than a pronoun in this instance?

[–] asqapro@reddthat.com 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverential_capitalization

Edited to add: “He” is still a pronoun, regardless of capitalization.

[–] Choosenewagain@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Magrath@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looking this passage up the "he" is not capitalized in the several I checked.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 2 years ago

Depends on the translation, obviously since the greek doesn't have capital letters.

Textus Receptus:

απεκριθησαν αυτω ιησουν τον ναζωραιον λεγει αυτοις ο ιησους εγω ειμι ειστηκει δε και ιουδας ο παραδιδους αυτον μετ αυτων

KJV italicises it

‭John 18:5 KJV‬

They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.

NASB capitalises it

They answered Him, “Jesus the Nazarene.” He *said to them, “I am He.” And Judas also, who was betraying Him, was standing with them.

NIV, ESV and USNT don't

“Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “I am he,” Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.)

They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am he.” Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them.

‭“Jesus o Nazareth,” the' reponed. “A be hïm,” qo he. (An Judas tha bethrayer wus stud thonner alang wi thaim.)

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Only demons use pronouns:

My name is legion and my pronouns are they/them

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Good guy Jesus paid his taxes concisely

[–] WholeEnchilada@lemmy.today 1 points 2 years ago

This cute boy served me a beer today at the bar. He liked me and told me was FTM. I came in my pants for Jesus.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Jesus, no he wasn't.

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