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Thoughts on Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Scientology? (lemmygrad.ml)
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[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

First two are weird and culty even by the standards of religions, but as long as they keep to themselves and abide by the law i guess there isn't much that you can do about them. The last one is different, it's not a religion, it's a predatory and very likely criminal organization that is about the same level of fucked up as human traffickers. They should be outlawed in all countries and its leaders arrested. They are the Western equivalent of Falun Gong.

[-] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 5 months ago

All cults, especially the last one

[-] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They are cults, Mormonism is the logical conclusion of US cultural messianism and Protestantism, it is American exceptionalism in the form of religion. Jehovah's Witness I don't have much knowledge Scientology is an obvious scam, and a criminal organisation.

[-] kredditacc@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Regarding cults, why are the US, South Korea, and Japan so full of cults? And does Europe have a cult problem?

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 5 months ago

Europe does not in general have a cult problem, but US based cults are slowly expanding into Europe to grow and take advantage of people's general sense of a decreasing quality of life.

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 5 months ago

Europe dealt with its cults by sending them to its colonies, hoping that the elements and natives would deal with them.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's mostly anglos. Other colonial and not colonial countries in Europe usually used good old fashioned religious wars to get rid of their heretics.

[-] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Cults solve three issues for the bourgeoisie in the USA, SK, and Japan:

  • It perfectly internalize the revolutionary energy and/or channels it away into the cults organization.
  • It gives a sense of community in places that have been devastated by hyper individualistic ideologies.
  • It can deliver powerful anti communist propaganda and capitalist apologia disguised by the "word of god". (This is what I have seen in Latin american evangelicals that receive preachers from the USA). In other words, the "Prosperity theology"

That's why cults prey on the needy and the helpless within the working class. It is an effective way to disorganize the working class with messages such as: "pray to god so you can have prosperity" or "Poverty is a curse of god and it means that you are lacking x y or z characteristics to be a perfect follower of the cult"

[-] kredditacc@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It can deliver powerful anti communist propaganda and capitalist apologia disguised by the “word of god”.

This is very true. I have never seen any cult that isn't anti-communist, be it Falun Gong, Unification Church, or others.

[-] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Some churches even sponsor anti communist terrorists like the Doral Jesus Worship Center in Miami Dade.

"At the time of his arrest, Alazo’s regular association with the Doral Jesus Worship Center in Miami Dade was known, in which people with recognized conduct in favor of aggression, hostility, violence and extremism against Cuba gathered", the Cuban Foreign Ministry added in its statement.

Source -> https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/MINREX-Accuses-US-Of-Protecting-Anticuban-Terrorists-20240509-0020.html

[-] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Closest I could maybe come up with was some of the more hippie oriented ones back in the day that the CIA ended up infiltrating and flushing out. Not explicitly communist but anti-war anti-imperialist pothead leftism at best.

[-] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago

South Korea

In this case it was so the military dictatorship could still rule while a facade of democracy was given to south koreans.

It would be fair to call SK a dictatorship right up till 2016...and then afterwards still a dictatorship, just a known one.

[-] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The first one is heresy, the last two are cults.

[-] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 months ago

Insane sect that theocratically runs a state, relatively harmless cult disconnected from the real world, crazy cult that tried to take over the US government and other stuff (I know Evans is a fed, but I think I liked the behind the bastards Scientology series).

[-] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 5 months ago

Vile and dangerous cults.

[-] MasterDeeLuke@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 months ago

My parents are Jehovah's Witnesses. They are 100% detached from reality and it sucked being raised into it but they are staunchly pacificist and non-political so they are at least benign in my opinion compared to something Falun Gong.

[-] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

International multi-billion dollar MLM corporations.

Can we have a global consensus to lynch billionaires?

Nicely. Economically. Naturally. With global ridicule.

Not fatally, you violent sick idiots. Mockery, not mortality.

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