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I've got my own takes on this, but I'm curious about y'all's.

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The reason people make such a huge deal their outrage against MtF folks is for one main reason:

There is nothing more shameful to a man than being perceived as a woman.

Gay folks? One of those men is taking on a "woman's role"!

Trans? "Why would a man degrade himself to be more like the lower-tier woman? — who are supposed to be subservient to men? What a disgrace to manhood! Disgusting! Who would willingly choose to be a lower species?"

Lesbians and FtM throughout history have been viewed as quaint cosplayers who will eventually be forced to submit to their societal roles.. so no biggie!

In short: women are lower on the totem.

Like many others have said here: it's based in misogyny. As are many many many issues, when you really get down to it.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think it’s this, but frosted with female social policing. So more misogyny.

What I mean is that femininity, at least in modern history, has been massively scrutinized. Pants? Working? Sports? No makeup? Short hair? No curves? Small breasts? Not reproducing? Not feminine enough!

So women are already under a microscope for how they look and act, and it’s a “natural extension” of it to accuse those who don’t fit the ideal even slightly of being trans, now that it’s a commonly-known thing. After all, if you aren’t feminine enough to be a woman in their limited view of what that means, what could you possibly be in their binary minds other than a man?

I’ve been personally caught up by this despite being afab, looking very feminine (long hair, feminine face, etc), and being well below the male height average (5’2, or a whopping 7 inches below male average), just because I have a deep voice, no curves, don’t hold my tongue, and don’t wear makeup.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

I think a large part of it is because MTFs are both more fetishized and more feared. They are subject to our societal fear of amabs but without all of its benefits and they experience the fetishization of women so they become more of a hot button topic. Transphobes aren't scared of trans men touching their kids because they don't let men near kids and because they don't expect afabs to be pedophiles. And with most transphobes being cis men it's a lot less likely for trans men to be fetishized.

Fair warning I'm not trans so I might not be as knowledgeable as I think