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[Done] New try at upgrading to 0.18.1 July 1st 20:00 CET
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Plane lands and everyone is disembarking
Rest in peace Leslie Nielson you glorious comedic bastard.
You know, maybe I'm being overly dramatic, but I really feel like we're at the beginning of something special. I realize that Lemmy has existed for some years, but the whole Reddit thing is really pushing it into the limelight, and it's new to me (I joined just before the blackout).
Seeing all the developers and admins dealing with the inevitable bugs, working together to keep the federated instances operating together during a huge surge in users, like a flotilla of disparate ships lashed together facing a major storm - it makes me excited, nervous, and hopeful. I fully intend to support developers and instances financially, but also want to give a big "yay team" shout-out.
PSA from Admin Team: The update completed roughly two hours ago. Since that time, the Admin team (and other site admins) have been working on the noted performance issues. We believe we have found a solution, but we still need time to test this out. You may still see brief outages and differences in performance as we are testing different configurations. We are trying to prevent rolling back.
While I know this can be frustrating - especially today - please keep in mind we have a team of volunteer techies (from around the globe!) collaborating on this issue. It is an inspiring situation. Also keep in mind that lemmy.world is quite a bit larger (and more active than any other instance). As such, we are a bit of a ‘test instance’ in regards to high volume requests. This is just part of the growing pain. We appreciate your understanding.
@ruud@lemmy.world will provide a debrief once we have completed testing.
We are happy to have all of you! Do what is needed to make this place the best. Even reddit sucked in the early days.
502 it went through, 504 try once more
Thanks for the kind words! Yeah, there are definite growing pains, and likely will be for some time (just do to the codebase we are working with, understandably). We have a really solid group though heading up lemmy.world though so we will be just fine ;)
Not sure if this is a good place to ask but it was on my mind these days, with the big user boom and probably most of it being directed at .world - should some of us consider moving to other instance to make room? Would it make sense? Would it help? Or are you ok having so many users under the .world umbrella (possibly causing even greater flood with people seeing it is the "main" (with biig quotes there) instance?
Technically speaking, yes, a portion of our issues are due to the highest user base of an Lemmy instance. So in theory, if half of our users dispersed to other instances, we would likely see some performance improvement here. However, lemmy.world is intended to be an accessible instance for the general population. The server itself that is running lemmy.world is beyond spec'd to handle much more than this user load. We are running up against code-level issues that we may or may not be able to get around with our internal configurations. This is just part of developing software in an environment were you go from a few thousand users total to hundreds of thousands in the space of a few weeks. There is no directive to have users create accounts on new instances, though if you are looking for an immediate performance improvement, that may be your best option currently. That is up to you to decide :)
Gotcha. So pretty much if I want to personally avoid the growing pains (or possibly ease them for others), I should consider it, but doesn't particularly help you directly. Thanks for clarifying and thanks for all the work you all put into it!
Yup you nailed it. For additional context, Ruud is running an almost identical server for his Mastadon.world server which has 160k users. Relatively speaking, these are large, performant, and expensive servers. They can absolutely handle the current user influx we are getting from the Reddit exodus. Are hands are tied by software limitations unfortunately. I can confidently tell you were are constantly in communication about ways we can amplify user experience with the tools that we do have access to. For instance, this status page was recently spun up which you can access anytime you think there might be server issues to help confirm that what you are seeing is recognized at a server level. Things like that.
All that being said, for users who are looking for a smoother experience right now, I can recommend lemm.ee as a solid home as well. Their admin Sunaurus has been very active and helpful throughout this process and handles his instance very professionally. He is essentially another Ruud (though Ruud is the best! ;)). Just something to keep in mind going forward as I can't make any promises about the time frames for these issues being resolved. Hopefully once we get contact back from the Lemmy devs we can start expediting a resolution. They have a lot on their plates right now though, haha, so we will see. Cheers!
It's not just performance issues (which seem to be solved right now?), the login form doesn't work at all.
The login form should be related to the overall spiking we were seeing, though I can't say we had conclusive evidence of that. I have been able to get it to load properly with a few refreshes. Maybe try clearing your cache? I had to do that several times during testing.
TFW you run a small server with an open source social platform for shits any giggles and one month it explodes a thousandfold because of one greedy pig boy.
Heyo! Small update from someone who is watching the upgrade live; it's ongoing still. Seems like they are still facing some performance issues. So grab your popcorn and wait! 🍿 (Btw, i am not a sysadmin, just a moderator)
Where do you look at it?
It's on a private discord server for instance admins and mods, so not for public. Sorry :)
I'm a moderator, who should I reach out to to receive an invite to the discord? I want to post a new forum game to one of the communities I mod for, but I'm holding off until I can be sure this update is stable.
It should be good now. The discord server is only for people who help moderate the instance itself, and not community mods. I help with the moderation part. If you have questions then you can ask in the !support@lemmy.world or !moderators@lemmy.world communities. Sorry :)
Can't you disable the post button within the upgrade progress? It's a shame to see posts to disappear due to it.
The best would be to redirect to a 502 for the duration of the migration. Better safe than sorry
I think a static page page explaining to users that the server is being upgraded would be best.
Crossing my fingers, excited for the update
We have almost the same nickname!
So it was you took my normal username haha
Crossing my fingers for everything to work out well. I’m looking forward to being able to log into Jerboa.
Me too! I miss Jerboa.
It's working! Writing from jerboa.
It's working! Writing from jerboa.
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