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[-] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 6 months ago

Major props to people posting these, and sharing to others that they've been lied to. Western powers want to instill a culture of fear about saying anything positive about China, like a psychological hurdle we have to jump over, because it could earn us the vitriol of friends and family.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 6 months ago

Normalizing talking positively about China is honestly one of the important things that we can do right now.

[-] toilet_wolf@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 6 months ago

My friend's girlfriend is Chinese and when I first met her we talked about China for a bit and she later told him that she wasn't used to people talking positively about China. He told me she sometimes lies about her ethnicity to avoid people being racist. made me want to punch a wall

[-] WhatWouldKarlDo@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 6 months ago

My sister can pass for Japanese. She doesn't dissuade people from thinking this, as natives are not well loved where she lives. It's a hellhole.

(She also has taken a sharp turn towards fascism, and claims there's no racism there while simultaneously doing this... But that's another story).

[-] azanra4@lemmygrad.ml 55 points 6 months ago

This is still a hot take in most western circles. I really hope that tiktok turns up the propaganda now that it's going to be banned anyway, especially during an election year to make more people see videos like this.

My vibes-based analysis is that Japan is a US ally, and it still took something like 20 years for a majority of westerners to think of it as a nice place. China will be subject to relentless propaganda, so I think it's probably going to be around 2030 or later when most westerners realize China is a nice place.

It's a pity to see 西方人小看中国. I guess the silver lining is that with racist western chauvinism clouding the vision of imperialists, they will continue delusional policies that underestimate China and overestimate their own capability, which is ultimately a soft strategic advantage for China.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 6 months ago

I think a big factor today is that living standards in the west are rapidly collapsing. This leads to loss of faith in the system, and by extension into regime propaganda. When people start realizing that their government is lying to them about everything, then it's not a huge leap to start asking why China is being demonized so much.

[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 6 months ago

The other side is that people don't believe that there could ever be a government that people would approve of, just because ours is so consistently horrible.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 6 months ago

I definitely notice that, people have a hard time imagining that a government could function in a fundamentally different way.

[-] azanra4@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 6 months ago

I hope you’re right. I am probably just in a filter bubble on yt, but seeing organic content (i.e. not spooks) give this commentary about toronto contrasting with this commentary about China within such a short period (on a western platform!) seems to be a leading indicator that reality is catching up with media perception

[-] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 months ago

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[-] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 6 months ago

There definitely could have been smog when she was growing up. Modern China is a society that is changing quickly.

[-] ChairmanSpongebob@hexbear.net 39 points 6 months ago

good for her for challenging her own old views on China, and even other places she hasn't visited. You love to see it folks

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Americans (and by extension, Canadians) are so racist they don't even realize how racist they are.

What separates a "racist" from a normal person is who they get angry at when you point it out.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 6 months ago

Canadians are the most annoying (to me, since I live here) because they always spout how not racist Canada and Canadians are and get so stupefied when something super racist happens. Like, be fucking for real.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"But they're so polite"

Yes, polite racists, the worst kind.

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 6 months ago

Well put, they are the most insidious kind.

[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 6 months ago

Well its us yanks who are racist, so clearly because your not Yankees your not racist

[-] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 months ago

You cannot imagine how many times I see Canadians boast about how not racist Canada is compared to the US. You can always count on some Canadian harping on about how people should move here under a post about something bad happening in th US, its embarrassing.

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 6 months ago

The new policy of relaxing visa requirements for European states is just going to accelerate this.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 6 months ago

Yeah, that was an amazing move by China.

[-] Weyland@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 6 months ago

It required a marriage. Ouch.

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