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No, this is not a Black Mirror episode.

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[-] 0xtero@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

Copyright needs reforms, it's broken as fuck.

The music and film industry have been exploiting this for decades and changing the entire model to a system where artists don't hold copyrights or get compensated for their work, content or (soon) bodies. Art does not enter the public domain anymore. Greed is all there is.

Burn it all down.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Copyright law? Oh you mean Disney Protection Law?

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago

A typical point that I severely miss from most discussions about AI is what it means for future artists or, in this case, future actors. And therefore what it means for us as a society.

By taking the art from the artists, regardless of whether it's an actor, illustrator, author, etc.., the way it is done currently, we will see much fewer people who will even try to learn these skills, or share them. At some point there won't be anything new anymore.

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe I'm overlooking something, but isn't the actual change that doing these things will no longer be a viable way to earn a living?

[-] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That’s the problem - it take a lot of practice and experience to get really good at graphic design or illustration. When people are paying you to do it, you can afford to do it all day. If not, you need to spend the majority of your time doing something else, so it takes longer to advance in skill. I see this in my own field with hobbyists/people who do art on the side vs people who do it full time.

[-] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Most artists can't earn their entire livelihood by their craft alone. Even those considered good, in most cases, need a main job.

But even the little money you make from your art can at least pay for art supplies (which are very expensive). Learning to be a good in your craft costs an enormous amount of patience, time and money as well. With no money at all to be made out of it, no commissions, and your work immediately flowing into the AI pipeline, new artists will be further discouraged from even trying to hone that craft.

[-] effingjoe@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You may very well be right on the money here, but I find it at least plausible that a market for "human-made" art becomes a thing if computer-made art becomes a thing.

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[-] delawen@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

We are doing all the AI thing wrong. We were supposed to be replacing hard repetitive manual work with technology. Not replace the art creation.

puts on Obi-Wan's beard

"Technology, you were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the need for work, not join them! Let us focus on culture and enlightment, not leave us with the hard manual work!"

[-] awsamation@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The problem is that replacing art is an entirely software task. You don't have to figure out a robotics issue for actual manual labor to be done. And for white collar work, art doesn't have an objectively correct finishing point, spreadsheets and reports do.

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[-] delawen@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, this is only a problem until they can fully generate actors from scratch. It's just a matter of time.

[-] Supernova@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

So much this, creating actor's looks and personality from scratch to fit the demographics is an Hollywood exec wet dream.

[-] LennethAegis@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

"I'm thinking, muscular, gruff looking white man who loves his kids".

[-] mPony@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Years ago a music studio generated an Asian pop artist. (I can't provide details about it because when I web-search for it I get a hundred results telling me how I can do the same thing myself.)
It's already been done, it's _being _done now, and we're not far away from it being relatively undetectable.

[-] donuts@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The little secret of AI is that it can't generate shit from scratch. It relies on a large and diverse training dataset in order to make anything at all.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

To put it in perspective they want to have a background actor on set for one day, scan them, then use that forever and not just for that movie. And only pay them for one day of work.

[-] Guadin@k.fe.derate.me 4 points 1 year ago

That's fine. Than we will only buy one movie and get all the other ones for free, since we already paid for one...

[-] awderon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The actors should get license fees everything their likeness is used. The movie studios already rake in a ton of money.

Book authors also get royalties when their books are published, why not use a similar system.

[-] donuts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Working people need to all be ready to reject a new wave of AI-powered exploration, the scope and scale of which we have never seen before.

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