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Or is revenge fucking awesome

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[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love it when shows have a character constantly on revenge sprees, then they'll randomly have an episode of them telling a younger person that revenge is bad.

[–] tslnox@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's valid though. You can regret doing something but do it still because you have no other options or see no other way.

"Listen, kiddo, I'm broken beyond repair. Don't go the revenge route I walked, don't make the same mistake. It will break you too."

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

I get that, but sometimes it just feels hypocritical and dumb. The Highlander series did that at least twice to my memory.

[–] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

If you’ve sufficiently dehumanized someone who’s harmed you in a major and who you justifiably hate, fucking them over can make you feel absolutely triumphant. I think there are four problems with revenge:

  1. It’s inherently escalatory unless you’re really methodical and sneaky about it, which most people aren’t. Accepting revenge as a permissible response to being wronged can make you overlook other options that would help deescalate the situation or bring justice, especially if the wrong wasn’t that big of a deal.
  2. The pursuit of it can be really unhealthy and pretty obsessive. It’s very much a way of consistently reinforcing rage and feeding it, so if you have the option to not do that, it’s probably best not to.
  3. Dehumanizing anyone is a psychologically destructive act. Sometimes people don’t have a choice and not everyone deserves empathy from everyone at all times for all their actions in equal measure. But again, if you have a choice, dehumanizing people isn’t great for you.
  4. You can be wrong. Simple as. You can be wrong about the perpetrator. You can be wrong about the act itself. You can be wrong about a bunch of things and taking revenge on someone who didn’t deserve it is just needless harm.
[–] tslnox@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

In one Czech action novel there was a scene where the main character, a vampire running away from pirates who were enslaving vampires to make them the fighters when robbing the ships, needs to get away fast, so he stowaways on a ship that traffics humans. I can't remember details but I think the sailors were treating the people extra bad and he got angry, fought and killed the sailors and took the captain prisoner.

The trafficked people wanted to lynch him, but he tells them it would be revenge and it's wrong

He then proceeds to interrogate him, get info, money, maps, whatever from him, then he sentences him to death for his crimes and shoots him.

Revenge - no. Justice - yes.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

It fucking rules. I'm Skull Face btw

[–] blight@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

too broad to say

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 1 points 8 months ago

Revenge is good as long as the target is justified, they did earn it

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