There can be no solidarity with people who support Russian invasion of Ukraine and the existence of the Taiwan state at least not with me
Sometimes the trash takes out itself.
Yeah this is tough. I posted a comment in the original thread and had a really great interaction with someone explaining their thoughts but also just troll comments. It felt like a representation of their whole community: a mix of really passionate people who want to spread a message and left-wing 4chan-esque belligerent trolls. I think that ideally they can let us know (not through their words, rather their actions) whether their community values discussion over "dunking". If the main point of their federation is only to find people to argue with, we should defederate. If they actually want to be involved in good faith interactions, we can individually block users or communities that push it too far.
I'm from hexbear and ngl i'm like, idk, pretty embarassed by how a lot of the other hexbear users were acting in regards to the news of the defed question, i decided to like make an account here too in case of defederation so i can still post in your queer communities too - though i've decided to like not upvote any posts in this thread or cast a vote in the poll next week since i have an obvious bias towards remaining federated with hexbear and think it would be unfair to like, interfer with the blahaj community's decision
::: spoiler Edit: ok wtf, I've been looking through the blahaj communities to see which to sub too and it's literally 1984 that the hexbear mods purposely didn't let us federate with this comm:
(iirc they purposely turned off federation with all communities marked as nsfw, since they couldn't specifically defed individual nsfw comms that they thought were problematic)
They are literally spamming duplicate "fuck democracy" posts in a thread about community feedback, you can't make this shit up. And as a cherry on top it has some fucking untagged gore that straight up loads as a thumbnail for me without clicking.
How about you start setting some actual standards for behaviour around here and actually keep things safe for folks Ada? Carrying water for the tankies like this must be exhausting. A person's/communities transness doesn't excuse or offset their shitty behaviour.
EDIT: oh cool it looks like those posts got deleted, thank you. I think them being here caused my original post to come out more aggro so apologies. The rest of it stands though.
That person has been banned, and their posts removed.
But honestly, stuff like this is why it's being put up to a vote. If our users feel that the balance is wrong, and hexbear users like that are doing more harm than we're gaining from trans solidarity, then the vote will show that, and we will defederate.
I followed the previous threads without participating, so let me just quickly say I'd rather we stay federated. I can see how some people might get really annoyed by their more vocal shitposters and political takes, but I think they're overall good.
Isn't the significant presence of hexbear folks here pretty solid evidence that their admins don't have good control over their users (or rather that they have no interest in following their own rules)? They were specifically told to stay out of metas for other instances.
We were told to stay out of metas where it's clear we're not welcome. The OP here implies that it's okay for us to reply to comments, but that we are unwelcome to make top level comments. If that is incorrect, all the mods need to do is make that clear and we'll go away.
Our mods are extremely active and responsive, they do not have trouble controlling their users lol
I'm going to use my last post here before the vote to say, it was massively irresponsible to federate with these trolls before consulting with the community you administrate. I'm sure they spun you a good sob story but they've hurled abuse at your users that you're apparently happy to let go unanswered. And you say they deserve a second chance. Wait staff gets your order wrong? That deserves a second chance, restaurants are chaotic and shit happens. Person shows up to work late? So much shit happens in the Dat to day, you can't possibly plan for everything, absolutely give a second chance. A bunch of tankie trolls use your instance as their entertainment? Absolutely fucking not. You get a second chance for a mistake, not active malice. I'd buy into the "Trans solidarity" lie if they didn't admit in their own instance this was about "dunking on us". They're here to recruit and make fun, and they made no bones about it on their own server. Not to put too fine a point on it, you fell for the first nazi at the bar. For the tankies, I know you're not nazis, you just use the same style arguments and are equally as tolerant of people who dont share your beliefs.
Long story short, I could not give less of a shit what Hexbear does on their own server but they've been extremely detrimental to our own communities and that not being considered a factor at all is beyond absurd
As an admin you have a duty to those you administrate and you've essentially told them that the abuse they've suffered is inconsequential in the face of Trans solidarity The same Trans solidarity Hexbear uses to abuse your users, willfully and maliciously. That's not good enough for me.
I don't think admins owe anyone a vote on federating in good faith. I have no critique of your others points, as they are all your opinions and my disagreement with them is simply my opinion. But I think calling out an admin for trying to grow the Lemmiverse (federate with a new instance) is asinine. It's on them to take proper action as needed after, not before.
What is this bullshit? You shouldn't give tankies a voice anywhere. They are absolutely bottom-feeder scum and no better than right wingers. They support regimes that are against trans rights.
I don't know what Hexbar is, all I know is that tankies make online spaces toxic. I don't really care if they're federated or not (I am new to fediverse idk what this means), but from what I gathered about Hex they're not good people
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