People are still running Win7 without pause. Don't kid yourself!
„No update? So no more forced restart? Neat“
No more forced junk and changes I have to undo? My computer can stay the exact way I like it for a long period of time without Microsoft fucking it up? Sounds like a dream.
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Hi.
Due to the embedded insecurity of our system we are forced to upgrade all of Earth's computers as remediation. While you sit tight for updates, all computers will run at half speed. Once the new chipsets are available, you may purchase them on a subscription basis.
Your desktop is almost ready...
Just finishing up...
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Anyone else remember Meltdown and Spectre 2018?
This is a meme about enterprise equipment lifecycles.
Huge corporate entities with machine inventory counts in the hundreds of thousands aren’t going to give a shit about trying to upcycle old hardware - they just want it to not be their problem anymore.
I predict there will be a few companies that pop up to refurbish the hardware and sell it as a thin client solution. Places like call centers live on refurb equipment and are moving to a vdi infrastructure.
My dad's friend was still running a 486 until last year. It did his spreadsheet.
Windows 7 is the only good version since XP, not even joking.
I agree with you bit 10 was still usable. When 11 hit and I saw the future, I abandoned dual boot.
Okay, but it's still bad for the environment if nobody picks them up
Thats assuming that people are actually going to throw their computers in the trash when the OS reaches end of life.
Most people running these old machines probably won't know or care.
They'll definitely know. Microsoft's last update for Windows 10 will make sure to add as many notices, popups and scary alerts as possible.
And as a result plenty will care, particularly those who aren't tech savvy. If you've got relatives for whom you are their go-to IT person, be prepared.
That's assuming they even read the message and don't just close out of it instantly.
Them: "I keep getting an error message." Me: "What's it say." Them: "I don't remember."
I foresee rise in selfhosted sector because of cheap hardware
Actually happen. An i5 with 4 cores + 8 GB Ram and a 256 GB SSD for something like 100 bucks. Years before we paid this for a raspberry.
Homelab go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Now imagine if PC was invented after "post-PC"/iPhone era and you will need a different OS build for every model and there were "promises" of Windows updates for each machine after which it cannot be longer updated. Also basically computers would have locked bootloaders or void warianty when a system is touched.
I wonder how many phones could be saved from the landfill for the last 10 years if there were supported by Linux.
You can get ARM builds of Linux. I have never tried them so can't speak to how well they work on a phone.
Just running Linux is one thing, but making it working with anything outside the CPU like the motherboard onboard chips and other components is a different task.
Check out a table of what works on one of the Linux distro targetting phones: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices
There is no phone with fully working hardware and most barely booting and showing console.
"send to landfill".
No. Just because it can't run newer Windows versions doesn't automatically mean it gets catapulted to the landfill
When I was a residential garbage collector, I saved close to a dozen computers from the landfill that just needed a quick cleaning. A lot of people will get rid of their year old Alienware once it fills with cat hair.
Doesn't mean it won't either - most people won't realise the computer is still usable, either by workarounds or installing a different OS - they'll either trash the PC, recycle or sell it. Or keep using it not caring that its complaining constantly that it's out of support. (And when they do, it's "how can I get rid of this annoying error" not "how can I update this?" - they probably didn't even read the error - and god forbid you manage to do the update, they won't like it if you do)
Hell most people don't even know Linux even exists, and a lot of them couldn't even tell me what their operating system name is.
I've had relatives that try to ask what's going on and say "I have 11" without elaborating that it's windows 11. I remember years ago my aunt said I have version 97. Referring to, at the time the totally unrelated fact that she had Office 97 installed on her winXP machine. Took me ages to work out what she actually meant.
I love me some cheap hardware to put Linux on it. It is a good feeling, plus less ewaste.
Exactly. Just bought a Dell with an i5 9500 for €200. That'll be my new home server. I just hope more people get wise to how cheaply you can run a setup with a little bit of getting informed.
Lol ok.
This is getting to Y2K hype levels, and in a similar fashion, will not do anything.
I get Linux people like to fanboy/shit over Windows but surely you're tech literate enough to realize this is making a mountain from a molehill.
Y2K was a big deal, but it was well funded and successfully dealt with. Wikipedia:
The total cost of the work done in preparation for Y2K likely surpassed US$300 billion...
Windows hits end of life in 2025 you say? Welp.
Well everyone is still going to be using Windows 10
*those
At least in the enterprise sector, you’re absolutely right. My company’s already got a massive list of all of the PCs that need to be discarded due to Win10 EOL. It freakin sucks because they’re very powerful PCs, but the damn lack of a TPM2.0 chip means they are basically garbage for our uses. And they don’t let employees take anything home :/ what a waste of
Can i have them?
You should ask them again. Most companies just fear the ways the storage drive could be restored. Maybe they gave them away without the storage.
A couple of years ago we gave old core2duo out for free. I prepared them with dd'ing only /dev/zero over the storage. Should be enough, but replacing would be better.
When/if this happens, if I got the money, I hope I find someone selling their old desktop to upgrade to 11 so I can get a cheap computer to use as a personal testing grounds server that I don't mind nuking if I accidentally mess up something.
Still rocking my Amiga 500 and Performa 450. Post your old junk:
What's the best non win 11 pc we can go for?
Do you have access to businesses upgrading computers or shutting down that division? They tend to have some interesting stuff for playing with on Linux.
Hmm not directly, but I might have some friends who do. Could be a very interesting one
Yaaassss
Good post
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