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How does it stack up against traditional package management and others like AUR and Nix?

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[–] daniyeg@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

purely as an end user i hate how much it downloads with each update and how much it uses the disk space although that's much less of an issue. i know it's solving a real problem and relieving a lot of the headaches of developers maintaing packages for each distro's specific package standard, but it's simply not the software distribution solution for people without at least well enough internet.

i wouldn't use any distro with flatpaks as its main way of delivering software and i would in almost all cases always choose alternatives even if it's outdated. i don't necessarily hate flatpak itself but for me i don't want to spend money on extra data cap and wait 30 minutes for a small update for my game launcher to finish.

the appimage of one of the applications i was interested in was 3 times less than the average flatpak update so redownloading the appimage every time would be better. if i installed more packages yeah the math would be better but it's still wasted data per update no matter how small it actually is. i found out after a while of using flatpak that i wouldn't just update and was stuck with outdated software anyway.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where's that Chris Pratt meme? --

I don't know what that is and at this point I'm afraid to ask

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Flatpak is a project trying to fix many things at once

  • make apps that work on every distro
  • thus have apps officially supported by the devs, unlike distro packages mostly
  • sandbox apps with an android-like permission system with a rating system
  • use modern standards like delta-downloads, deduplication and BTRFS compression to save storage space
  • make everything nice and user friendly
[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 2 years ago

The picture is too big.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

I dont use insecure tools to install software

[–] teolan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I love flatpaks and flathub. They're amazing for GUI apps, though there are still a couple of wrinkles that needs to be ironed out.

I would really love if it was better with regards to cli apps and developer tooling though. As someone that uses a lot of TUI apps that seriously limit how much I can use flatpak.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago
[–] 0485919158191@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] scratchandgame@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I personally think it is trash..

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[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It's pretty good for desktop apps, but it doesn't provide CLI applications, so I still have to rely on the AUR. There are some issues with it, but overall I think it's the best solution we currently have. And it's very easy to use, which is great for new users and it will become important if Linux continues growing like this.

[–] clemdemort@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's the easiest solution to packaging software for Linux that doesn't mean it's good, In fact fhe way no dependencies are shared absolutely wrecks my hard drive and makes everything super long (downloading, updating, etc...).

Where it shines is security but to be honest do you really need an open source app to be in it's own secure sandbox?

I vastly prefer nix and I wish packaging stuff for it was easier.

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[–] XenBad@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

They’re great on certain desktops, like Fedora’s Atomic Desktops, but you usually have to work around Flatpak specific issues. On NixOS there doesn’t seem to be a declarative way to install them.

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