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Lemmy currently miss a sync feature across servers. Meaning that by moving, one loses all subscriptions and messages.
The real solution should be a distributed network to support federation, instead than a plain federated one, i.e. an automated redistribution of users and loads across servers (lemmy instances).
I don't know how they are planning to manage it on the long run
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Ah, I wondered if that's what it was - I found a Star Wars community through a web search and it said there were 2.5k subscribers, but it only shows 1 subscriber (me) when I view from an app.
I think it's a good idea to sum these statistics, but not for all instances (as it will be super easy to hijack with fake instances). Admin should manually select instances they trust and get the subscribed count summed.
Huh. I have 140-something showing as subscribed on c/cocktails and maybe 15 participating actively in a way I can see (commenting or posting) but it doesn't even exist in that lemmyverse link. Just an empty community called "cocktail" and a midwest social one.
tfw kbin communities aren't listed. rip.
In fact, the subscriber count on c/Games is on lemmy.world itself 8.67K and on lemmyverse.net 7.9K. What gives?
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What's the reason to show local counts anyways? Is there more to it than a "because we can, and it was easy to implement"?
I'm curious if there are any reasons which I don't see, and doubtful they outweigh the caused unclarity.
Most people only care about total numbers, I suppose.
I want to preface this by saying that I really don't know anything about Lemmy, but I can see where subscriptions are managed by the subscribers servers in a federated situation: the community's server might not even know who is subscribed to it since the subscribers server might be responsible for pulling data.
But any individual subscribers server would know about other users on that server that are subscribed to that community
Main reason for showing accurate user counts across instances is to give an idea of how active the communities are at a glance.
People will probably think twice about joining a community with low numbers, and it normally also causes those communities to be harder to find in the first place.
Not sure how lemmy implements this, but I suppose it's not a trivial task in such decentralized environment. Imagine 10 users from instance A subscribed to instance B and then instance A went permanently down. If B holds number of subscription requests it's now out of date. If B has to poll every instance it's federated with it's additional arguably unnecessary load. So yeah local subscriptions are a low hanging fruit. I guess one way to solve it is to have some independent authority that keeps track of sub counts in case those are (made) public and queryable
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Are you sure? I don't think so. It shows users with data on the instance. A one subscriber instance will still show hundreds or thousands depending on how much federated content there is.
Yeah, just added a bunch of comms and it often showed 0 subscribers while I know from lemmyexplorer there's way more.
Somehow decentralisation is bad and we need centralisation to make a thriving ecosystem
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