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!piracy@lemmy.ml has also been blocked from lemmy.world.

edit:

Lemmy.world has released an official response.

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 282 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

To be honest, it's not a huge deal. The copyright cartel can easily send dmca requests to your isp just for having text guidelines. Not everyone has the bandwidth or energy to deal with stuff like that.

I just wish this wasn't done at the request of a transphobic racist who just did it to get back at is for getting banned for making transphobic and racist communities in this instance.

[–] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 year ago

Keep it up db0, a lot of us across the fediverse appreciate what you've built!

[–] Rabbit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't need lemmy world anyways. This is the most based instance on the entire fediverse. Their loss.

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[–] tron@lemm.ee 202 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Fucking Lemmy.world is hot garbage. They're down every day and are constantly defederating with any instance that doesn't fit their narrow, sanitized world views. It's also one of the most recommended Lemmy's with more new users going there than anywhere else. I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain. Especially if this domain makes as many boneheaded decisions as lemmy.world

[–] quirzle@kbin.social 104 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I think it incredibly damaging in the long run to have 50% of active users on this platform to be centralized on one domain.

I agree, but 50% is still better than 100%. I definitely appreciate that I'm reading about this while being totally unaffected personally rather than just disappearing entirely like what happens with a banned subreddit.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We badly need Lemmy clients that can merge instances even if they're defederated, as well as the other way around, filter out entire instances even if your instance won't defederate from them. Letting instance owners dictate what you can or cannot see is not the way.

There are clients that will do the former (eg. Liftoff) but I'm not aware of any that will do the latter. I don't understand why, it can't be that hard to filter users and communities by instance.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago (9 children)

A lot of people register there initially to get their feet wet and move on to another instance later for these reasons. At least we have subscriptions/blocks transferring tools now.

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[–] Melody@lemmy.one 114 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This feels like an obvious bullshit cop-out reason to defederate against a specific community that they don't like for whatever silly reason they can't reveal to the public.

Never have I seen an actual link to content survive very long on lemmy.ml or dbzer0.com. Just like the good old /r/Piracy we discuss piracy, but we do not directly facilitate it.

Someone please slap the back of their heads repeatedly and aggressively with these facts. This excuse is disingenuous as hell.

If you are a user of lemmy.world; RUN. NOW! Find a new instance. Switch away from them before they reach terminal enshitification velocity.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 77 points 1 year ago (13 children)

enshitification

You're already misusing our cool new word. Cut it out.

[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 30 points 1 year ago

Too many people don't know what it actually means.

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[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 49 points 1 year ago

I guess, someone with a copyright background came knocking at their door. It's one thing to defend against a lawsuit if you are a big for-profit company with a well-funded law department and a nice financial buffer. But it's an entirely different thing if you are hosting a non-profit platform with your own money because you are a nice guy.

Tbh, I am negatively surprised how many people don't understand that the person hosting a lemmy instance is someone who does it as a hobby and not a big corporation.

The good thing about Lemmy: if you don't like an instance or it's admin, you can just host one yourself. You just need a Pi or an old laptop and a few hours of time. Did you try that?

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[–] ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat 89 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And just like that I learned about a Steam Deck piracy community.

Something something Streisand Effect.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBF it doesn't seem like they were against piracy per se, they just wanted to avoid potential liability. That said, I've still moved on to another instance.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 81 points 1 year ago (4 children)

https://lemm.ee/post/4235833

A transphobic troll got spanked and then retaliated with that post and the .world admins were stupid enough to blindly follow the directions of an alt-right turd.

Just saying.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not just transphobic but racist as well and going by the posted pebbleyeet memes probably also fascist. Sad that the lemmy.world admins took the bait especially after dealing with constant ddos themselves for kicking off their own trolls

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[–] freamon@endlesstalk.org 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just saw the same user on the star trek instance, accusing them of being into 'nerd shit'

It's doubtful they posted to .world with genuine concerns. They just seem like an agent of chaos.

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[–] omgitsaheadcrab@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago (8 children)

And the fact that I can see this means sh.itjust.works hasn't, yey

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[–] redimk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I think this is better tbh, I personally don't like it when piracy forums/sites/whatever piracy related thing goes too mainstream. Maybe it's gatekeeping, I don't know, I just don't want another Z-Library incident.

Either way, they probably aren't even against piracy, they're probably just lazy and don't want to deal with any of the issues they could potentially face down the line.

Edit - grammar

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[–] Fuhgetaboutit@lemm.ee 68 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Hi Lemm.ee. Bye lemmy.world.

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Lemmy.world is dogshit. It feels like a nanny instance or like a reddit 2.0. Idk why people keep joining that bullshit instead of spreading out.

I'm so happy that I joined a small instance that hasn't defederated or been defederated from anyone

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[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 year ago (7 children)

wow it's almost like having a huge chunk of lemmy's users in one instance is a bad thing. who would've thought.

seriously though more people should migrate to smaller instances.

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[–] porn_account@lemmynsfw.com 55 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I will just subscribe here from my porn account then.

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[–] Jawker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hello all. First post here. Moved over from lemmy.world because of this.

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[–] goddamnpipes@feddit.ch 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Made the switch from lemmy.world the other day due to this. Not necessarily because of who they defederated/blocked, but because this happens with little/no consultation or communication with the user base. The frequency of it became frustrating; who knows what other community/instance will be blocked on a whim next?

I appreciate that the LW admins do this as a hobby in their free time, but things like this could be approached in a better way, or at the very least with better communication. I found out about this via a post in /c/mildlyinfuriating, which in itself was mildly infuriating lol.

Migrated to this instance, and I can choose via Connect which instances or communities I want to see. Should have done this sooner.

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[–] victron@programming.dev 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

federation works as intended

Dumb mfs: FUcK lEmMy.wOrld pOwEr tRipers rreEEeE

Guess which is the reddit clone.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Good to know just so I know to go to an instance that doesn't block this community. I don't blame .world for being careful. This is indeed the Fediverse working as intended.

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago

Its fair enough. They gotta protect their ass.

I just logged into a user made on this instance. Problem solved. And lemmy.world has had a ton of downtime anyway. Always trouble loading comments and often trouble loading posts

[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't hold it against them. They have their hands full at the moment with DDOS attacks. The admins are barely able to keep the place running. The beauty of federation is that we can pick and choose where to sail from.

[–] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And yet they insist on keeping registrations open and tarnishing the lemmy name with their shit uptime and terrible, terrible decisions like this. Fuck them.

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[–] ollie@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wow, and they only announce it in their discord. fuck lemmy.world

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[–] JasonHears@feddit.nl 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s funny because lemmy.world has been blocking every community for hours on end multiple times a week on a seemingly regular basis. Their shits broke.

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[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find funny that we all are raging about this dumb move, and lemmy.world ppl can't because of the blocking lol.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

We were notified through a c/Mildly Infuriating post. True pirates are used to having to make some effort to get their content!

[–] tellah@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If I was on that instance and subscribed to this community, I wouldn't see these posts any more? If I wasn't paying attention would I even know it was gone?

[–] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's correct. No you wouldn't.

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[–] Diurnambule@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thanks to their post I discovered !steamdeckpirates and a second piracy community.

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[–] haych@lemmy.one 34 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world sucks, it's constantly down and they block communities people want to federate with, and leave communities federated people want blocked.

[–] OverfedRaccoon@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago

Guess my alt account has now become my main account. Thus, the Lemmy dance continues.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago

Moved over here from .world. kthxbai!

[–] adonis@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Meanwhile all kbin users: 🫢🍿

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