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LG's smart TV privacy woes continue as Portugal's Citizen Voice asks the court to investigate. Are smart TVs too keen to gather data?

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, I read that on my fridge this morning.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Corporation: Do evil shit to achieve optimum profit, usually in 100s of millions of extra profit. Laws: Yeah this'll cost you 10 million.

I'm sure there's a name for this but I'm calling it Litigation Offset Loss. So long as the punitive cost is outweighed by the profit gained there is no incentive to act ethically. The only thing worse is corporate self regulation.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago

Let me introduce you to your new best friend: regulatory capture. This gives you the worst of all: low cost of doing business with high deregulation similar to self-regulation but with the ability to point to the regulatory body for any high profile issues

[–] Garfunkel@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago

I'm just saying, americans could solve a lot of problems with a guillotine...

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

I always heard its "the cost of doing business".

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 17 hours ago

It's called "The government wets it's beak."

The MAGA government doesn't mind if you fleece the rubes, that's what they're there for, but if you are particularly successful, you have to make sure the government gets its taste.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 16 hours ago

Stephen Burke out here like:

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Executives should go to prison for spying on people in their homes.

[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Stalking charges, and restraining orders is the bare minimum here

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That would be lovely to see implemented.
Samsung execs unable to go withing 100m radius of any random chap who might have bought a Samsung TV in the past 10 years.

[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Point of clarification -- this thread is about an LG lawsuit.

Samsung is allegedly doing similar heinous shit, so I get why the company and its execs would come to mind.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

In my defence, I had put them in the same bucket in my brain.

Although I tend to put all of them in the same bucket given enough time, including the company I am working for...
My simple response to a net connected device is to drop them a mail asking whether the appliance will work its whole life without requiring an internet connected activation and if I have either no response, or some "we care for customer" bs, then I just don't buy.
The underside of a rock sometimes feels much better.

[–] halezinflames@lemmus.org 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Alleged"

How obvious does it need to be?

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's alleged because they haven't been convicted of a crime. That they did it is not in question, what's in question is what crime (if any) will they be convicted of. Could be this or something else or nothing.

[–] halezinflames@lemmus.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ahh fair enough, I just thought alleged meant that it wasn't 100% clear that they did it or not.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

LG lawyers will definitely try to argue that they didn't do what they did

[–] halezinflames@lemmus.org 1 points 4 hours ago

because of course they will

[–] THEPIGWHODIDIT@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I worry about these screens being in doctors offices and hospitals without their knowledge is transcribing all this info they should not be.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago

Good point.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They should be taken off the shelves entirely until they've proven they fixed it. This should hurt them good enough to let others break out a sweat and fix theirs too. Because no way is Samsung and all the others not doing the same.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You got me wondering how that works. The retailers have already paid, so that wouldn't hurt them immediately. Of course further orders would be shut off instantly.

Would the government order LG to buy back units already sold or is the retailer shit out of luck?

[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago

Retailers should immediately get their money back in an instance like this. I have no love for the retailers, but it would at least hurt the manufacturer.

You can bet the retailers would sue them. And not occupying shelves cost them a lot of money. What's in stock right now isn't what's sold in a year. Yes, it would suck for the retailers, but it would SUUUUCK for LG.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Of course it is this was known years ago but hard to search now as there are a ton of stuff about it now.

The difference is evidence

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If there's a class action I'm joining

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Same. I want my $2 check.

Thankfully I never connected my C1 to wifi, but knowing that it'll try to silently connect to an open network, IDK how effective that is. I'm seriously considering opening the thing and physically disabling the wifi chip.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

That's what I plan to do, I bought 3 of these fucking things 😭

[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social 77 points 2 days ago

About fucking time!

[–] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

"We own the glass"

Me: what an odd thing to say

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not so easy when a different countries wiretapping laws vary from the United States wire tapping laws. Bwhahahaha.

[–] MalMen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

portugal caralho!