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Judy Cho talks about her journey on the carnivore diet.

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From plant-based eating to carnivore

  • Judy ate plant-based for 12 years, developed an eating disorder and severe depression, and attributed these problems to stress and weight concerns rather than food.
  • Following her first child, a breakdown led to an involuntary psychiatric hold and memory loss; antidepressants and antipsychotics stabilized her behavior before her memory returned.
  • The recovery center offered therapy and coping skills but permitted plant-based eating while prohibiting low-carb diets, reinforcing her belief that food was not the problem.
  • She investigated her brother's butter-heavy ketogenic diet expecting heart risks, then tried plant-based keto with olive and avocado oils, with only limited improvement.
  • Sweet foods, including artificially sweetened foods, still triggered binge cycles; during a severe episode she decided to try the all-meat diet a friend had mentioned.
  • After two weeks on carnivore, her urge to binge and constant food noise disappeared; therapy remained necessary for changing emotionally driven food habits.
  • She regretted years lost to illness, studied nutrition for her sons and encountered Weston A. Price and saturated-fat teachings that changed her earlier views.
  • Her management-consulting experience became carnivore pyramids and portion infographics intended to help people with mental illness or disordered eating avoid prolonged suffering.

Nine years of recovery, skepticism and medication

  • Her husband initially feared meat-related heart disease but became convinced as her secret bingeing, nighttime eating and withdrawal from parenting ended; she has eaten this way for nearly nine years.
  • Others praised her when she was extremely thin and plant-based yet questioned her healthier look over fiber and cholesterol; one supportive person can help sustain dietary change.
  • Being available to her children motivated her dietary change, and helping others with chronic illness became her purpose as her health improved.
  • She received high-dose Zoloft and antipsychotics including Zyprexa and Rexulti; fear of weight gain led her to stop the antipsychotics, and she later tapered Zoloft herself.
  • Her family observed emotional flattening on Zoloft, with less happiness and sadness despite greater outward mood stability.

Eating-disorder care and the medical model

  • Her eating-disorder program required three meals, two snacks plus an at-home snack, and processed sugary challenge foods after meals; refusing these foods was classified as disordered behavior.
  • She believes frequent processed carbohydrates and sweets aggravated blood-sugar fluctuations and anxiety, with additional psychiatric drugs sometimes used for persistent distress.
  • She favors meat and ketones for stable nourishment and mood, links THC-related anandamide in fatty red meat with calming effects, and regards psychological work as necessary for emotional food coping.
  • Her psychiatrist dismissed diet as a factor and focused on prescriptions; she worries about medication-centered incentives, adverse effects and antidepressant withdrawal difficulties.
  • Patient education about bodily warning signals is central to her approach; medication can relieve symptoms without resolving the underlying imbalance.
  • She attributes nutritional deficits and gut dysfunction, mood disturbances and intensified food-seeking to plant-based eating, with medication addressing the symptoms.

Building a practice beyond diet alone

  • Carnivore Cure [1] grew from questions about fiber, vitamin C, plant antinutrients and glyphosate; her subsequent coaching developed into functional-medicine work.
  • Therapy helped her connect poor boundaries with family and work to comfort eating, making behavioral change and nervous-system regulation parts of recovery.
  • Empower Functional Health begins with carnivore to reduce processed foods, seed oils and potentially reactive plants and to supply absorbable animal nutrients before pursuing other causes.
  • The Carnivore Elimination Protocol [2] serves as a starting point; persistent symptoms prompt further examination of the gut, environmental exposures and mind-body factors.
  • Her first check when progress stalls is adequate intake: strong satiety on carnivore can mask under-eating, with thyroid and other hormonal problems emerging after roughly three to six months in her experience.
  • Half a pound of meat for an entire day may be insufficient; she sometimes eats another half-pound and plentiful fat at dinner despite lacking hunger.
  • With adequate intake, her team investigates small intestinal bacterial or fungal overgrowth and other illnesses while retaining carnivore or mostly meat as the dietary foundation.

Inflammation, environment and stress physiology

  • Inflammation Fix [3] draws on experience with thousands of clients, from four-month-old infants to people in their 90s, and prioritizes major drivers of persistent illness over minor biohacks.
  • Its foundation is personal health education: acute inflammation is useful, but chronic inflammation can persist, and food, immune function and toxins interact.
  • Carnivore elimination is a possible healing phase without mandatory lifelong strictness; bowel movements, waste removal, mold, Epstein-Barr, Lyme, heavy metals and parasites are additional areas.
  • The hypothalamus coordinates thyroid signaling through TRH, TSH and T4/T3 and stress signaling through CRH, ACTH and cortisol, linking stress with hormones and autonomic responses.
  • Blood-sugar problems, environmental irritants, difficult work and relationships can sustain stress signaling; undernourishment can lead the body to use its own tissues for survival.
  • Rumination about danger without an immediate threat can trigger physical fight-or-flight responses; she views many thyroid and sex-hormone problems as downstream effects of ongoing stress or inflammation.
  • Similar thyroid problems in families may involve shared diets and stress patterns alongside genetics; small changes involving pepper or coffee may be less consequential.
  • The book aims to help people navigating conflicting specialist and online advice identify larger causes of persistent illness through knowledge of their bodies.

Conventional medicine and connected body systems

  • Judy's anger at doctors softened through clinical collaboration; brief visits, debt and specialty divisions burden well-meaning clinicians, and she believes physicians have the highest occupational suicide risk.
  • Brain, gut, heart and lung functions interact: salivation at the sight of food and stress-related blood-pressure increases illustrate connections that isolated specialties may overlook.
  • Asthma inhalers can relieve immediate symptoms, but she worries about black-box warnings for some inhalers, bone and childhood growth effects, and steroid-related glucose problems when causes go unexplored.
  • Symptom relief can be temporary, like covering a crack in a wall; identifying what caused the problem may require examining food and environmental triggers.

Starting carnivore and sustaining change

  • Phase one of her strictest elimination protocol is beef, salt and water, but the starting method depends on individual personality and sustainable adherence.
  • Abrupt carbohydrate removal suited her all-or-nothing tendencies; gradual reduction and temporary inclusion of manageable foods may suit a more moderate eater.
  • For someone keeping blueberries, she might place half a cup after a one-pound steak to reduce the glucose effect relative to eating the berries first.
  • Beginners can start with enjoyable meats, including convenient beef sticks, reduce carbohydrates promptly and refine meat quality and fat intake after establishing a stable routine.
  • Consistent, less-strict carnivore is preferable to five strict days followed by two off-plan days; symptom changes and personal knowledge guide decisions while preserving individual authority over health.

References

  1. [23:36] Carnivore Cure — https://carnivorecure.com/
  2. [26:44] Carnivore Elimination Protocol — https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/carnivore-cure-elimination-diet-cheat-sheet/
  3. [30:06] Inflammation Fix — https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/inflammation-fix/

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

She started from a place of severe eating issues, so just going carnivore still leaves gaps - under eating, not enough fat, social support, exogenous influences, and trying to be too strict - are pit falls she ran into.

Oh, neat, I didn't realize Judy made her protocol publicly available https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yieav7JuIQ5zF3X7QUtaDWfHj5gsNo4T/view