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Dan Gheesling is a Big Brother winner, a former Detroit Lions football coach, and a Twitch streamer, but he is most famously known as the longtime friend and collaborator of beloved Canadian internet figure Ryan “Northernlion” Letourneau. Unfortunately for Northernlion, Gheesling decided to take the U.S. Army up on a sponsorship deal recently, which saw him participating in a boot camp-style game show for his all-ages audience on Twitch, a decision Letourneau had some serious issues with.

Gheesling’s three-day-long, live-streamed stint with the U.S. Army, which began on September 16, led to him being immediately condemned by essentially every corner of Twitch. However, Northernlion was understandably silent about the matter on Twitch.

As Northernlion explained in a stream on Twitch today, however, his delayed decision to address the sponsorship was due in part to his 14-year-long friendship with Gheesling, but he also wanted to let Gheesling address the situation himself before talking about it on stream.

“You can probably tell…I’m upset,” stated Northernlion. “And I think I will be more upset as we talk about it, which I don’t mind[…]I think what it comes down to is that…the stream that he did with the U.S. Army is just unacceptable. It would be unacceptable if it was just sponsored by the Army, but steeped, head to toe, in the imagery, and making it look so awesome—It’s so far beyond the bounds of what is acceptable to me.”

As Northernlion explained, Gheesling did eventually address the fallout from his U.S. Army–sponsored Twitch streams. Unfortunately, Gheesling wasn’t particularly apologetic about promoting the idea of joining the army to the children in his Twitch chat. Gheesling did state that it was “never [his] intention to upset anyone,” but also said that he “had a job to do,” and “couldn’t breach the contract.”

Gheesling’s half-baked apology was not received well by both Twitch viewers in general and, seemingly, Northernlion himself.

“You probably didn’t have to read between the lines to know how I feel about the U.S. Army,” Northernlion continued during his stream. “Of course I hate the U.S. Army; they’re threatening to take over my country! They’re actively at war overseas, and with their own citizens.”

Likewise, Northernlion directly addressed how bizarre it is for the U.S. Army to advertise via Twitch: “We work in this insane industry. I feel like I’m on Curb Your Enthusiasm, where the first domino is ‘I’m gonna play some [The Binding of Isaac],’ and then the big domino is like…I’m denouncing the United States Army? But I have to remember that I didn’t put myself in this position—and it’s a joke. The whole thing is absurd. But also it’s serious—it’s very real. And you know it’s real, because this is where they’re doing the marketing.”

Northernlion seemed uncharacteristically shaken while addressing Gheesling’s actions, which likely prompted him to explain that the fallout from the cancelled Northernlion Supercruise in April, which Northernlion organized with Gheesling, had negatively affected his own mental health: “Taking that kind of heat fucked me up for a while. It took me a while to digest it—to return to a baseline… a different version of myself, to be honest…And I came out of it realizing that the community is made of real people, and I don’t wanna do any sort of sponsorship that’s even a few percent over the line[…]That made [the community] feel like they’re in a place that’s masquerading as a safe space, but actually is taking advantage of you.”

“Even if [Dan] thinks it’s over for him, I still think there’s a place to do the right thing,” Northernlion concluded. “I hope that he can understand that he’s an adult and he can make his own decisions…I really think, for some people, it would make a difference.”

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[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm consistently surprised by how cool Northernlion is. By all means he should be basically a chud by now. He's a rich white first-world gamer who hasn't had to work for like 15 years or something. But every time it comes down to it, he turns out to be a reasonable, principled guy.

I mean he's not a socialist and that kinda sucks, but he's like the least harmful a not-socialist grillman can be

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've said to people multiple times that he is the only unproblematic cishet white male streamer (although I think Vinny, Joel, and Jerma are probably alright, too).

[–] AntifaCatgirlSuperSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jerma

Isn't that guy a serial killer

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

I heard he's got a real dumper

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Especially with that nick name you wouldn't expect him to be a chill guy.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

he does strike me as a fellow traveler i feel like he could get there very easily. i always think about how as the contradictions get really crazy a lot of my well meaning liberal streamers and stuff will become more communist. it's already perceivable to some degree. losing faith in american institutions wholesale is a big leap for american (or canadian) liberals though

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i don't know who any of these people are but good on anyone who's anti-US military in public.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Genuinely surprised anyone's anti-US military publicly; I have Arab friends (proper Middle Eastern) who aren't happy when I insulted the (US) military (or at least they used to be)

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

He's Canadian and is pretty clearly pissed off about Trump's threats to invade. I wonder what his opinion would be if it had been the Canadian military instead.

[–] weatherman@midwest.social 26 points 2 weeks ago

Northernlion is one of the few streamers I watch, this was a really sad situation and he handled it with a lot of grace. Also his friends malf and hcjustin worth checking out if you're looking for leftist streamers

[–] yoink@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

perhaps he can be a little goated, as a treat nl-smug

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Skinhead streamer northernlion

[–] theperfidiousOrbweaver@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't have to do him like this lmao.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Um this is who you're defending, do better

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

Come on, quit trying to make me like Northernlion, I'm already on board

[–] theperfidiousOrbweaver@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

I think I watched NorthernLion do some EUIV multiplayer playthroughs circa 2014-2015? Now he's openly stating he hates the US military. I guess we both have come a long way.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've only seen Dan comment on NL's streams from clips and everyone he seemed like he was fake-pretending being some smug american dipshit, so not surprised at all about this.

[–] Emily@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

I stopped watching NL years ago specifically because I couldn't stand Dan and he was in every stream. He was always so obviously fake. I'm glad that era seems to have ended.

[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

When NL got into CS2 like a few months back, there was this one video where Dan was playing with him and his wife, and he was just being so weird toward her the entire time. Like nice-guy awkward teenager trying-to-flirt kind of thing. Someone mentioned it in the comments and Dan replied to the comment with something dismissive like "c'mon man" and the whole thing just gave me bad vibes.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Enelle is a good egg, the only gamer to be spared