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[–] Nath@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is wild and interesting! IT consultant is approached to make some reports. IT consultant makes reports with open information he finds online, embellishes his stuff by saying he spoke to KRudd, and just makes shit up.

Still goes to prison, not for espionage - because he didn't steal any government secrets. But for State interference. His dodgy lies might damage the Australia/China relationship.

The reports were handed to Ken or Evelyn in person – sometimes at restaurants and cafes devoid of other people – in exchange for envelopes containing the equivalent of thousands of dollars in cash.

While the information was worthless, the jury accepted prosecution submissions that the relationship with Csergo and his contacts was valuable.

Ultimately, Smith ruled it was important to deter the wider community from being wooed into compromising Australia’s national security.

This is the part that is most interesting to me. You ask a consultant to consult, and offer them envelopes of cash for the work. Of course a lot of them are going to say "yes" and not ask too many questions. But you can be imprisoned for this - even when the bulk of what you are providing is stuff you can glean from government websites, reports and whatever you find online with a bit of personal speculation and fibs sprinkled in. Not actual government clearance stuff.

Ignorance of the law is not a defence and all that, but I wouldn't have realised that what he had done is illegal. Which I suppose is the Judge's point.

[–] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But you can be imprisoned for this - even when the bulk of what you are providing is stuff you can glean from government websites, reports and whatever you find online with a bit of personal speculation and fibs sprinkled in. Not actual government clearance stuff.

That's the part that blows my mind too. E.g. if someone from Qatar offered to pay me to write a report on Australian defense aircraft, and I just Googled public data and cut and paste into a report and also I made up a lie about having mates in the Air Force, that counts as spying for a foreign country? Even if I did not reveal or even possess any secret information at any point?

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah this is wild to me. Also if there are any laws ignorance should be a defense of it's esoteric state conflict bullshit.

I'd like to see the full judgement but I do wonder if this will be knocked back on appeal.

The idea that doing a job badly/scamming some people becomes some federal offense because you "should have known" they were spies (also lol, who fucking cares if it's public info. Spy on lmao) is concerning.

Also:

Ultimately, Smith ruled it was important to deter the wider community from being wooed into compromising Australia’s national security.

Makes my skin crawl. Stringing someone up to "send a message" is the antithesis of justice, which should only be concerned with restittuion for the harmful acts of the accused and their reformation.

[–] MonaySimpson@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

The jury found him guilty, but I'm not sure what the actual charge was.