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[–] black0ut@pawb.social 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I made a previous comment praising it for its audio jack. Turns out I'm an idiot and misread a letter.

It still has no audio jack. I really can't believe all these "sustainable" "no e-waste" companies are removing their audio jacks, when Samsung themselves have proven it can be done even on incredibly cheap phones and with water proofing.

Sadly, this seems to be another Fairphone moment. Their phones look genuinely nice, but I can't justify a downgrade from my phone, which currently has an audio jack.

[–] EarMaster@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I can't talk about this phone, but I have a story related to audio jacks. When I got my last phone I was bummed that there was no audio jack on it, but I decided to give USB-C adapters with an integrated DAC a chance and I was surprised how bad my previous phone with an integrated audio jack sounded in comparison. Maybe it's a good thing we lose those cheap on board DACs and are forced to get us decent ones?

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is my experience as well. Moving the dac away from the radios and cpu, even just a bit, really helps. And the usb dacs are usually better to begin with. The same thing applies to computers, higher end audio for computers the first recommendation is to move the audio gear outside of the case. Audio interfaces for musicians are almost never inside a desktop case either, its usb or thunderbolt these days. And when 90% of the market is using Bluetooth headphones I think not having an audio jack built in is that big of a deal in 2026.

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 3 points 8 hours ago

No. I do not need good audio quality on a phone, I need convenience.

And most of those cheap DACs already use the same chips phone motherboards used to have (and still have). Despite that, there are some phone models that have actually good DACs inside, and some companies also used to put very decent DACs on their phones (like LG or Sony).