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[–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I was banned from lemmy.ml outright for asking if someone that was responding to me with obvious Russian propaganda was a Russian, because he was spouting obvious russian propaganda, I thought maybe he was and was being fed that propaganda.

I was banned for being racist by asking if someone was a Russian. Which is a nationality not a race.

And yes, I was also pointing to facts that where contradicting their made up stories about Nato etc.

It seems to me that lemmy.ml is a Russian misinformation outlet.

[–] pet1t@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Barging in on this week old thread. Had Dessalines also accusing me of "racism" after commenting "found the russian" on what was obvious pro-russian propaganda.

anyway, fuck the tankie developers. fuck Dessalines.

edit: typo

[–] fake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It seems to me that lemmy.ml is a Russian misinformation outlet.

Yes, but they don't even get paid. Schmucks.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Don't the lemmy devs get paid?

I used the "T" word and was banned. Let it be known, it was a thinly veiled excuse, they just hate I brought up Taiwan.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It seems to me that lemmy.ml is a Russian misinformation outlet.

yes but they have good communities like their Linux and privacy communities etc, i ignore their weird pro fascist stance

[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

It's probably not something you should ignore tbh.

[–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No. We have a saying: When you are at a table with 10 people, and one of them is a Nazi. There are 10 Nazi's at that table.

There is no "neutral" in this case.

[–] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If there's anything the Right and the Left agree on, it's that the worst thing you can ever do is be Neutral.

[–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

There is no Left vs Right when it comes to Fascism. There is only the rich and the rest.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if scientologists made open source software would you use it?

[–] Clutter@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

That, my friend, is actually an awesome question. I have the same question about Harry Potter and the biggot know as Rowling, or Hugh Jackman and his Trump and Murdock friends, Michael Jackson and pedophilia, Eric Clapton and his racism, etc, etc.

Can we / should we, separate the art from the creator?

I think we must. Not a single person alive is "purely good or purely evil" in all things (?)...

We do not turn a blind eye, we can acknowledge that Hitler was a human being and also evil. Same with Netanyahu and Trump. I will acknowledge they probably did some good in this world (perhaps only privately for their own people), but that does not mean we look away from their evil and vilify them for it.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 week ago

trolls parroting a made up story

So close to self-awareness

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

They get so mad over there when you remind them that Russians would stop dying if Putin would pull his army out of Ukraine's territory, including Crimea.

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

A 3-day "operation" getting stretched out into a 4-year-war is clearly a winning strategy you guyse

[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 7 points 1 week ago

Maybe they're butthurt that Russian casualties are getting close to one point five million.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eh, I'm kind of willing to give them this one. The "Your orcishness is showing" line is pretty close to bigotry.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If anything, orcs don't deserve being compares to russians.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...yeah I'd call that a fair ban for bigotry, lol.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Maybe that entire nationality shouldn't exhibit exclusively traits of an inherently and irredeemably evil species.

MLs are banning everyone who disagrees with their narrative regardless of rules, and you know it.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't collectively condemn Russians just because their government and most of their boomers suck.

Like there are a lot of Russians who hate the current situation. But Russia is at a point that speaking out means prison.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

My life is literally at risk just by me living and working in Ukraine. Forgive me if I don't have much sympathy for russians living their lives safely and funding the terrorism with their taxes.

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[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's straight up racism bro

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 week ago

I wasn't aware russian is a separate race now

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[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Blue Morpho? Clearly just an alt account of The Monarch.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Or could he be Dr. Z's one night stand?

[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Waaay ahead of you.

. ml is cancer

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Don't even bother they're brainwashed and determined to stay that way. I'm sure there are legitimate Russian propagandists among them, but most of them are poor deluded souls.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, is thumbkey completely controlled by dessalines or can it be forked if they decided to get huffy?

https://github.com/dessalines/thumb-key

Because it's pretty damn cool.

[–] fake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

AGPL license, nothing stopping anyone from forking it anytime.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 week ago

Yogthos is such a stupid person I literally can't believe how anyone takes them seriously. He's been saying this for genuinely YEARS

He's like those trump supporters waiting for "the kraken" with that whole Sydney Powell shit. I remember a guy who had fuck Joe Biden on his roof in Christmas lights and then had a sign in his yard that said "RELEASE THE KRAKEN"

6 years later the kraken sign is down and you can still see the outline of fuck Joe Biden on his roof from where the sun and rain wore on the more exposed parts.

Fucking loser that guy is.

[–] mergingapples@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'm using the thunder app, how do I shut them out? I'm getting rather sick of their garbage too.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh thanks. I'd blocked a lot of communities from .ml manually, but didn't ever notice that instance block option down there.

If only the other groups of rabid culty nuts on Lemmy were so centrally located. :/

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

lemmygrad, and hexbear is another one to block. individual users not so much.

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