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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She's a victim, but her shell is still scary as shit.

[–] _skj@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right? Horror has plenty of examples of people who are transformed into monsters against their will. A werewolf isn't any less a monster just because the original person is a victim.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Right! So her being used as a scary entity is all fine in my book. "She" is the scary part of the movie.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Many villains are victims, they are not mutually exclusive.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Watch the movie. It's very explicit that Nikki is in no way the villain.

That being said, from letterboxd reviews, either people don't pay attention to the dialogue, plot and themes or a lot of people were on their phones through swathes of the movie.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it's pointless to even talk about this without differentiating between the real Nikki and the 'possessed version'. One of them cooked a cat and murdered people. That is the version viewers see for the majority of the screentime.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the thing. The possessed version is explicitly not Nikki. "You've never been with me."

It's like the exorcist, the one puking pea soup and screaming obscenities isn't Linda Blair.

[–] valar@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

But both the possessed Linda Blair and the possessed Nikki could be counted as villain characters at a theme park

[–] maturelemontree@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

That's a good point, but then it begs the question of how innapropriate it is for that context. Nikki was a pretty good allegory to a lot of the issues women face around societal pressure, rape, and social consequences, and to make the possessed Nikki a villain kind of reaffirms Bear being not the villain. From what I saw Bear was single handedly the villain.

I mean the demon was there, and at the end people died, but before that moment Bear knew she was possessed and selfishly still wanted the relationship.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Sure! (Though, the other commenter brought up some really interesting points.)

But the original comment to which I replied cast Nikki as both the villain and the victim, which was not the case.

Many villains are victims, they are not mutually exclusive.

[–] Xraygoggles@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I think if you had the farmer from Men In Black running around it's the same thing. Nobody is confused about Nikki being a victim, but there's no costume to do it the other way.

[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 week ago

Pretty sure it's her circumstances that are supposed to inspire the horror, not her personally

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 4 points 1 week ago

tbh someone under the influence of a one wish willow is scary

it isnt the actual nikki thats roaming around, its the willows version of her

[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I wanted to murder the guy in the first 10min of the movie.

[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Spoiler?..

I've seen it as Nikki is "under the spell" of Bear who IS obsessed. Bear is obsessed with her and puts up with the psychotic behavior... He's obsessed with the idea of her/them together. Nikki isn't acting on her own (as made clear by the film).