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[–] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

As a leftist, I dislike this sentiment. We should not normalize isolating folks on the far right.

Of course, do what you want with your friend groups. Kick someone out if you don't like hanging with them. But if you can swing it, there are a lot of cases where it can be really good thing to expose conservative folks to leftist worldviews in a friendly setting.

I feel including conservative folks has a much more direct and convincing theory of change than excluding them does.

(Again, it is cool if you don't want to do that.)

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I agree with the sentiment and have practiced this for years -- it was pounded into me during my education-- but have not found any balance in it. The evils stay evil and I feel like they thrive on my making room for them. Its very odd that some otherwise sane and caring people can have these parts of their personalities that are completely distinct from the rest of how they think, and it doesn't make any sense to me personally. Usually the biggest hurdle is around Israel support. So we stay friends, but I think they are evil shits and they think I'm a peacenik moron who is naive out of touch with the real world (I think).

I'm not certain, but I think at its core is racism and lack of respect for others, while wishing them well at the same time. So they want to tell themselves they are good people, but hate on certain ethnic groups. Kind of a "I'm going to shoot you in the head but I feel bad about it" sort of thing. Ironically they dont know a single thing about islam, and universally dont know any muslims.

They tend to be middle class too-- truly middle, and well above average intelligence, mostly with career success. They dont worry about money, really ever. Victims of propoganda? I still dont know.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I've been doing a little bit of this with someone I work with. The thing that really got her attention was me pointing out I can't make a gallon of gas by myself, buy I can make a kilowatt of electricity with stuff I have lying around my house/yard. And that equipment will make me more kilowatts, for free.

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

You can say Trump's a rapist without any pretext

[–] VidyaPlayuh@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

Don’t you mean evidence?

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

If you are voting to take away my basic rights and safety we can't be friends. That includes 100% of Trump voters, 90% of Republicans and about 30% of Democrats. If you include less basic rights that unfortunately includes another 30-60% of Democrats or so but hierarchy of needs and all that.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 hours ago

I've done this to even my close family members.

I'm willing to cut very special people in my immediate family a break if they renounce Trump, but they refuse to do that.

Their hill to die on is raping kids. They are, of course, devout Christians that constantly talk about God and love.

These people are hopelessly lost and stupid.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

My friends group removed any Trump voters in our orbit, I removed all Trump voters from my social media, and I don't speak to family members that voted for him anymore.

The result? A lot less stupid in my life.

[–] Ravenheart@lemmy.zip 10 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

As a leftist, I'm on board with this sentiment. But as a former right-winger, I know this would exclude me from my current community. We should allow space for growth and reconciliation, but if you still support Trump and the Republicans at this point, fuck you.

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

I agree, but if you voted for him the last election it becomes harder for me. The first one, ya you wanted to stick it to status quo. I get it, not support it. Hillary did suck. The second time it is hard but at least Biden one. But after all the shit, lies, rape, epstein, COVID, fraud, impeachments, obvious corruption....and still support him. That's tough. It is like a Nazi in 1946. Redemption at that point will be hard earned only.

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