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[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Wait... I might be genuinely stupid here... but do North Koreans have internet access?

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

North Korea has its own intranet, essentially. About a decade ago, it got leaked on Reddit. Pretty mundane stuff. A news website, a recipe forum, etc.

And I imagine they can access the Chinese internet fairly easily

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks!

unusually competitive imitation

North Korean clone

Yeah... nothing about this is competitive at this point. I wouldn't trust any of my information with this device, unlocked bootloader or not.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

this shit is just rebranded chinese phone

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Despite a spoofed 120Hz display claim, its eye-friendly dimming, strong telephoto macro performance, and unlocked bootloader make it an unusually competitive imitation

GET LINEAGE ON THIS SHIT ASAP!!!!

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

an equivalent is probably on taobao lol. this is just a rebrand

[–] nebulahhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was gonna say no graphene but id imagine it doesnt have the requirements for graphene. IMO lineage or stock aosp none of the other roms afaik (especially calyx and /e/) are worth installing due to lack of security updates.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Graphene is only leading in security updates if you choose to run their closed source builds. Otherwise the difference in security updates between open source Graphene, Calyx and Lineage (can't speak to other Roms, have no experience with them) is usually days.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Closed source builds? Isn't the point of GOS is that it's hardened and OSS?

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Google made changes to the AOSP release cycle last year. This change took AOSP from an open source project where every commit was visible, to more of a source available "here is a tar ball with squished commits so you can't say we violated the license" once every 6 months sort of deal.

Due to those changes, AOSP forks are faced with 2 options. Stay fully FOSS, reverse engineer each tarball drop for figuring out what each new commit was for and adapting that into your codebase, or the Graphene approach of partnering with an OEM (Motorola) to gain access to embargoed AOSP code, and maintaining 2 codebases (Graphene FOSS, and the Graphene embargoed version).

Graphene is trying to maintain their security goals even if it means the end user can not completely compile the most secure version of their OS on their hardware.

Lineage, Calyx, and Lineage forks l4mg, /e/OS and iodeOS are (whether by choice or by the fact collaborating with an OEM is a difficult pain in the ass) taking the first route.

You can use GrapheneOS's open source update channel, but you miss out on some security updates.

Ive always felt every android fork has its place, just the same way every linux distro does. They all serve a different purpose.

[–] nebulahhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How do you get the closed source varient? I have never seen anything about this from graphene

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/27068-grapheneos-security-preview-releases

It should've asked you if you wanted to switch update channels a few months back.