For how much in bribes ?
this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2026
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A bit of bribes of course and also because the F-35 ain't selling as well as they'd hoped
Eventually Türkiye will develop its own engine and fighterjet and USA will lose one customer
Yes
DT is just a door-to-door Boeing salesmen
Eventually Türkiye will develop its own engine and fighterjet and USA will lose one customer.
Why would they spend enormous amount of money that they don't have developing their own jets, when they could just invest heavily into drone industry that they already have and it's quite advanced, cheaper and gives better results...
Like, Iran won the war just by using dirt-cheap drones and missiles of questionable quality, against much more advanced US-Israeli airforce and navy.. Those are still relevant, but in modern warfare drones seem to be kings of the battlefield
Why would they spend enormous amount of money that they don’t have developing their own jets,
Believe it is much more cheaper than keeps buy fighter jets from other countries in the long term. Being independent is too important . As you see ,USA don’t want to give when you don’t obey or don’t compromise .
Dump it and by Gripen instead.
So in 2020 Turkey bought defense systems from Russia so Trumps Administration got upset that they didn't want the F35 being tested with them. So now in 2026 Trumps Administration says our hissy fit is just blocking ourselves from potential buyers?
At least they can admit they were wrong I guess, just takes 5-6 years.
Didn't Turkey return those S-300 to russia last year that's why they're aiming to get F35s? At least I remember reading last year russia requested to buy those air defences back
The S-400 is still with Turkey but some ideas are being floated around on what to do with it because it’s being cited as a legal impediment for getting Turkey back in on the F-35. Russia as you say is very happy to buy it back because their air defenses aren’t doing so hot. Turkey may not want to do that though because they favor Ukraine over Russia politically - an expansionist Russia is really bad news for Turkey. Another option is to sell it to some other party which would be better for Ukraine. However, they would need Russia to sign off on such a sale and that could present some difficulties. If they just unilaterally sell without Russia’s approval then that makes them look far less reliable to follow the terms in arms deals which could block them from getting nicer arms or make them far more expensive to buy upfront to price in such risks.
Consider- Trump no longer cares about S400 getting a good look at F35 since he's compromised AND he's got his fancy new F-47 (on paper, all that matters to trump)
Trump definitely doesn’t care. That said, this can potentially present problems with Congress because there are many congressmen on the Republican side who would be split between their political instincts for deferring to Trump who wants this to happen and for backing Israel which absolutely does not. There’s a bipartisan letter written against this from people from people in like the Hellenic Israel Alliance Caucus and so on.
Since it seems like the Turkish side is sending out communications that they’re open to getting rid of it and that would make things politically easier in DC I would think it more likely than not that the S-400 moves onto somewhere else. I hardly think the challenge in Congress is insurmountable in the face of Trump’s power if Turkey were to absolutely refuse to get rid of the S-400 but it’s not even being used so I don’t see why Turkey would not take the chance to offload a liability, look reasonable and buy brownie points for keeing the Trump admin’s life simple.
Israel and Turkey in the same F35 program now? Lol
Yeah Israel is very unhappy about the thought of the military technology they manufacture winding up in Turkey’s possession since they’re in increasingly opposed blocks right now. Greece isn’t happy either since it’s on that same side.
doesn't matter, Turkey will never get parts or software updates.