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Peace be with you guys 🌹

This is my first Fairphone with /e/OS and I'm really excited😊. It arrived within 3–4 days even though the estimated time was 2–3 weeks. That suprised me, because I live in Germany.

Everything came intact: headphones, screen protector, and phone case. They also included this little pin to get into the SIM tray slot, which I thought was great. There was no charger in the box but that's intentional on their part. Doesn't matter to me since all modern chargers work anyway.

It's really easy to use and murena has its own browser. The default search engine is Qwant, which I don't use because of Bing. But honestly, my main goal was F-Droid and using apps that reportedly won't work on Google-certified devices starting in September. I've already downloaded my own apps like IronFox and I'm happy 😁.

Now I'd love to hear your opinion: I think Google has shot itself in the foot with this decision. By closing down Android further, more people will switch to de-Googled systems.

That's my take, what do you think?πŸ€”

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[–] david_bardos@mementomori.social 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@AuroraSine As a Fp5 user, I've always been satisfied with both the hw and the sw of the phone. I wish you the same! Enjoy your new device! πŸŽ‰

[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Thank you very much 😊🌹

[–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I ve been wanting to do something like this. but one thing I'm not sure off is the Google compatibility πŸ™ƒπŸ™„πŸ™„

I can't quit it cold turkey. for instance need Google maps and it's location sharing. i would love it if the Google apps were installed on this phone as second class citizens. is this possible?

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

You could just install Google Maps? Like, still gives Google access to your location and movement, but it's a free device, you can put on it whatever you want.

You could also get a Fairphone with the Stock Rom, that should include Google Services. You could install a different Rom later.

There's also self hosted FOSS location sharing services, but for those, you need a server or VPS, and do some legwork to set them up.

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[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Hi, thx for your Comment.

I'm aware that you can't stop all at once. For me it was also step by step until I could boycott everything completely. Anyway, I looked into it for you. There's an "App Lounge" where you can log in with your Gmail account to access Google apps. You can also browse there anonymously. I think it's like the Aurora Store, but I'm not really familiar with that. As for Maps, Murena apparently has its own map app, but I use the one from F-Droid "OpenStreetMap". I hope I could help you.

[–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

thanks. it looks like I can install Google maps from here. but I'm not sure it will allow location sharing to work as that needs to run in background and constantly update location

[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

You're welcome. So I've done some research and apparently many features won't work at all because the necessary Google background services are missing (de-googled system). I can really recommend OpenStreetMap as an alternative to you.

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[–] swicano@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

I assume using it through the browser doesn't let you do the location sharing how you need?

[–] RepleteLocum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What about openstreetmap.org?

[–] lemonhead2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I use it already. but convincing the family to switch and use that is not easy. (we location share constantly for safety)

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Very cool. Maybe I'll get one, depending how the partnership between Motorola and Graphene goes. And on the pricing. 599€ for the Fairphone 6 with e/os is a little expensive for me, but I don't know how much a Graphene Motorola would be.

The battery life seems surprisingly good, which could convince me to get it. Can you confirm if the 54 hours mixed use claim on their website is any accurate?

They also included this little pin to get into the SIM tray slot, which I thought was great. There was no charger in the box but that's intentional on their part.

Two small notes. The sim tray pins are included with practically every phone. I'm not aware of any manufacturer that doesn't include them. And the lack of charger is due to EU law. Maybe they wouldn't include it anyway, but at the moment the EU is forbidding including chargers with phones to 'reduce e-waste'.

[–] doopen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Not sure what their mixed use criteria would entail, but my current stats for a charge ~19 hours ago with 2 hours of Lemmy scrolling:

[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, I didn't even know about that EU law. The Fairphone is the first phone I actually bought myself, so it wasn't obvious to me.

Anyway, the battery life is really good. Though it depends on how many apps you have running in the background. I don't have that many right now.

About the price: With everything included, it was definitely more than 600€. With the headphones, case, and screen protector, the price naturally went up. But I'd been saving since the beginning of this year, so I didn't break a sweat. The news that Google was going to close down Android was basically the kick in the ass I needed to step on it.

Final word: It's expensive. But for me, it was worth it😊 Hope I could help you a little bit with your decision

[–] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Welcome, friend! I hope you enjoy yours as much as I am enjoying mine!

Might I suggest Lawnchair as your launcher?

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[–] uber_chicken@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Happy for you. Could soon be joining the club

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

why do they copy iOS icon deisgn? it just makes it look cheap and horrible, applr has horrible taste in icon design

[–] chrand@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Amazing, enjoy your new /e/OS. I'm planning to buy one. Since you're from Germany, how is your banking experience? Are you using any traditional German banks (like DKB, N26, Commerzbank)?

That's my only concern, but happy to hear experience from /e/OS users :-)

[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

DKB asks you to call their hotline to activate your phone. Otherwise everything is peachy.

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[–] _Nemo_@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There are no issues with DKB on degoogled Android.
Commerzbank have recently started claiming non-Google phones were "rooted" (which is bullshit) and refuse app-to-app pushTAN communication. One must work around that using a (PC-based) browser and photoTAN. Motherfuckers.

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[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thanks a lot! To your question: I ordered it directly from the official Fairphone website and paid with Klarna. There was no Problems. It arrived within a few days. I was honestly surprised by how fast that was.😊

[–] RandamuMaki@mstdn.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@AuroraSine @chrand Ouch, don't use klarna if you can avoid it. The company has a bit of a notoriety of wanting to sink its customers into debt. https://www.ramseysolutions.com/debt/klarna

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Buy now pay later is not specific to klarna. PayPal offer the same same, curry's in the UK as well, apple and google offer it for their phones (though I think they might be a bit better with KYC). As long as you understand what it means to take out a loan it's "fine". To be clear, I think buy now pay later schemes are a disgusting band aid created so that we can keep spending more while everything gets more expensive, but don't need to single out klarna for it.

[–] chrand@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for your answer, but I'm asking if you installed any traditional German banking app (like DKB, Commerzbank, etc) on e/OS/, I'm curious if the bank app will work correctly in a modified Android like e/OS/. I've heard that some banks apps don't work on "non-official" Android.

[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aaaah, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood. Unfortunately, I can't help you😟. I don't use these kinds of apps at all.

[–] chrand@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

No problem, thanks for the info anyway :)

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Will fdroid stop working on my FF4 in September if I don't switch from the stock Android it came with?

Haven't even signed into the play store. I don't want it. Most apps installed by fdroid, a few from APK.

[–] RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By default it will be blocked, but you can enable it by setting a developer option and waiting 24 hours. Or you can install /e/os or similar

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Guess I will install e/os, that takes less than 24 hours

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[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Hello. For the answer, I'd need to know if you have a degoogled system like /e/OS. Fairphones can be delivered either with Play Protect (Google-certified) or without it. If your device is Google-certified, it's possible your F-Droid apps might stop working then. Degoogled systems aren't affected as far as I know.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Exciting! I'd like to switch to /e/OS but I don't know if doing so would mean my banking app stops working. Do you have any experience with your own bank app on this OS?

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Several Swiss banking apps work without problems on my FP4 with /e/OS.

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[–] dragospirvu75@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Enjoy your phone! Could you tell me if RCS messages work on Google Messages?

[–] AuroraSine@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Enjoy your phone! Could you tell me if RCS messages work on Google Messages?

Hello, thank you very much. So I looked into this and according to my research, RCS doesn't work on /e/OS because there are no Google services running in the background. The system is intentionally deGoogled. But this isn't personal experience, only research.

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