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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I agree with the sentiment, but were prisoners able to vote, prisons would get gerrymandered to hell and back. That said, they should still be able to.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

I think you're touching the heart of the problem: the US election system.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

In Sweden, prisoners keep their home address and vote in their home district.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

To be fair, Sweden's prison system is more progressive than the non-imprisoned experience in some countries.

[–] Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Switch to Scientific Socialism. Problem solved.

Also quit letting any 2bit idiot have a say on what the country's policies are unless they're qualified to be in that conversation.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Also quit letting any 2bit idiot have a say on what the country’s policies are unless they’re qualified to be in that conversation.

That is such a tempting setup...

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 35 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Any government that can financially profit from its prisoners also has an incentive to imprison more of its population.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well, the government isn't profiting from it. Its the people running the government who are invested in private prison companies are personally profiting from it. Along with their golf buddies running said companies.

Privately run prisons as a for profit business is a crime against humanity.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The government would have got a payday when they sold off the prisons in the first place.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Perhaps. But I think many of the private prisons are either built from the ground up by the corporations, or the buildings are still owned by the government, but the companies are paid to operate them for the government.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

MAGAs looking to make trump derangement syndrome a mental illness.

mark someone as mentally unstable > hall them of to an asylum > drug or kill them under wraps

america has no idea what its dealing with.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

On the other hand, any country that allows its prisoners to vote has a constituency that wants to decriminalize what ever it was that they did.

Not to mention, that arresting is not imprisonment. Merely being arrested doesn't put you in prison, you need to be convicted first. When cops can easily follow orders from the top to arrest people with the wrong skin colour, getting people arrested is easy. But, with a decent system of courts, it's a lot harder to convict them.

Look, I get that the context is about political prisoners. But, really, if the system is so corrupted that people are being convicted of something merely based on their politics, it's laughable to think that it has free and fair elections and that voting by prisoners is going to change things.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

On the other hand, any country that allows its prisoners to vote has a constituency that wants to decriminalize what ever it was that they did.

What's wrong with that?

Millions have been arrested and convicted over absurd "crimes" without a single victim to be found. Of course they want it to be decriminalized, as does their family, friends, and many fellow citizens. As it should be.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago

What's wrong with that?

It depends on what they did. Maybe they want to make insulting the king legal, that might be a good thing. Maybe they want to make sex with children legal...

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 22 points 12 hours ago

Us people: criminals shouldn't be allowed to vote!
Then proceed to vote for and elect a criminal.
Then they do it again. Just because.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 10 hours ago

If anyone needs representation, it's prisoners.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 35 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

In the US, slavery is legal for prisoners. The US has the largest prison population in the world. This is not a coincidence.

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[–] meltycat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Just another way to silence dissenters in an authoritarian regime that will never speak for, or care about, the common person.

[–] asg101@lemmy.ca 28 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

More fun facts, slavery is still legal in the USA (for prisoners) and the USA imprisons a higher proportion of its population than any other country. The ruling class just makes everything illegal and enjoys unlimited slave labor!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 10 hours ago

They intend to greatly increase the use of prisoner slave labor, and will be using it to punish political prisoners they have labeled ANTIFA terrorists, just for posting messages like this one.

They want to identify everyone on the Internet, not so they can keep children from learning that boys and girls have different genitalia, but so they can find the ANTIFA Terrorists, imprison them, take away their right to vote, and then lease them out to Sociopathic Oligarchs for whatever dangerous, unregulated work they need done - mining, environmental clean-up, construction, roadwork, crop harvesting, etc.

All those jobs that immigrants used to do? ANTIFA Terrorists can do them.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago

More non violent prisoners behind bars than any country to ever exist!

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 125 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

Not only do I think non-incarcerated felons should have the right to vote, I think currently incarcerated should as well. Hell, set up a voting location in the prison.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

In Canada, currently incarcerated people are allowed to vote by special ballot

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Especially since those states are counting those prisoners among the residents in the census.

The entire fucking point is to get the benefits for those additional people, while not having to worry about them voting (likely against the people who put them there)

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago

Important distinction, the census counts the prisoners as residents of the county in which the prison sits. The prisoners are almost always already residents of the state. It’s called prison gerrymandering, and it unfairly advantages the county and districts in which the prisons lie, almost always rural and almost always to Republican advantage.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but there are no non-felons in prison. But there are those in county jails awaiting trial who are not yet convicted (or will be found not guilty) of a crime, and your point is an important one.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

If we want to get too technical there are some states that place people that commit certain misdemeanors in prison as opposed to jails.

It's not the majority, but it does happen.

https://www.ncsl.org/civil-and-criminal-justice/misdemeanor-sentencing-trends?__cf_chl_f_tk=aE1cnGu3qx2FIyq7vr3HPY2wXwrgpR2LwzXEZZRHQqY-1783008877-1.0.1.1-2gk_l8oLJVzMur4SabrsHl4NqwkhuB2x.fzAf10_EOU

[–] Klear@piefed.world 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how it works in most civilised countries.

[–] RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip 41 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That's how it works in ~~most~~ civilised countries.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

That is how it works in a democracy

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 15 hours ago

red states use prisoners as part of the census, so they can maintain the gop house seats in thier states.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago

One of the many ways in which those in power in the US systematically enslave and disenfranchise people of color to this day.

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