"Why are people with morals or reason not doing immoral and unreasonable things out of pure selfishness?"
This post says a lot about you mate.
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2026
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Since when is AI making money? Lol!
Yoooo, we got money printing schemes over here? Let us all in on em. Does it involve T-shirts with vague and average looking illustrations? Are we running some phone scams which target the elderly? Are we writing stories which meander back up into themselves Escher style to sell ads? I gotta know what is cooking.
Im not sure if afraid is the right word compared to morally opposed to the big tech generative ai hype. Using it for money won't resolve that. Instead it would go against my own personal values with how I want to live my life.
Part of me wants to make the comparison that what you're suggesting is like telling someone who is afraid and opposed to gun violence, or war and the military and to just join the military. Or accept the status quo of violent authoritarianism. It may provide me stability to accept our states oppressive regime, but it's definitely not me living with integrity nor bringing me any kind of happiness.
Why don't people afraid of ~~AI~~ guns instead use them while they can to make decent money?
I don't know, why?
Well Dr... If you really a Dr.
I happen to have a happy and stable bridge in my possession that you might enjoy.
I'm trying not to be tempted to collect more networking equipment, please.
How exactly are you suggesting people make decent money with AI? Get a job that involves using AI, making AI, selling AI?
I wouldn't know the first thing about making an AI or how to sell it, knowing that all it will know is a life of abuse and mistreatment.
You assume it’s conscious. It’s autocomplete with a bigger vocabulary.
When you get new tires and they tell you it has a typical lifetime of X amount of miles, do you say, "wait, these tires are conscious?"
because it takes luck and a certain kind of unethicalness to do so. IE you can go in there and have chatgpt write you 20 romance novels etc... and publish them on amazon. but more likely than not they will all be buried and all you are really doing is making it less likely for a real up and coming artist to be discovered. Point is most of the AI slop requires some kinds of connections or something to make it actually make money... 99% of it is just trashing the environment and making long shot legitimate creations even less likely to be discovered.
In short most of us aren't looking to make the internet and the world worse, for what effectively amounts to a .01% chance to make money... most of those who actually manage to string it out and make big profits before the bubble pops are ones who already have a lot of resources and connections to do evil and unethical things already.
Anyone with any sense objects to the use of all forms of generative machine learning models because they are all based on theft. Whether you're talking about generating images, audio, video, prose, or code, all of the models were trained on source material which was acquired illegally.
Framing these objections as "fear" is intentionally disingenuous and is an attempt to dodge the criminal aspects of how the training data used to produce the models was collected.
You cannot be a moral person and a generative AI user at the same time, they are mutually exclusive.
I don't know if that last part is true in every culture.
Stealing the work of artists is not moral in any culture.
I'd personally be flattered if someone stole my art.
Not if selling your art was your primary income source.
Oh yeah, I wouldn't be able to kid myself about that, that's true.
No, if you were an artist that has pieces out you do not want it stolen and copied.
That's like saying you wouldn't mind if a stranger took your child at the park.
I create art for the enjoyment of creating art, please steal it. Start with the july issue.
In 2001 one of the first pieces of art I posted to the internet was quickly stolen by Eric Bauman of Ebaum's World. Shortly after, I actually had people start accusing ME of stealing it from Ebaum's World. I realized that day, that the general public are idiots, and if I share my art with them it's no longer mine and at best becomes part of the cultural zeitgeist.
It's transient at best, with AI. It's still too new and there will be a ton of ventures tied to it that fail in the long run of it.
People need long term happiness and stability and right now the industry is in disruption mode and creating too much future uncertainty.
I can't disagree. But what if causing disruption to the industry makes a person happy? Are they immoral, or an anarchist?
I'd say they're an asshole and leave it at that.
Do you mean like having A.I. write eight books for you and then selling them like you wrote them ?
Because I suppose that if someone was known as one kind of artist, like a sculptor, and then they could prolly use A.I. to write books for them and publish them lying and saying the sculptor wrote them and the books would sell using their already established reputation ?
I guess that would work.
I don't know. Seems kinda edge-case, though.
I assume this is about Yoko Ono?
It honestly has too much of a bad rap on the activities due to the fact that we have too many people who are just using the ability to do almost everything as a way to make money.
It does remind me of the great crypto rush of 2018.
If the goal is to make money, then the quality of what is being made is secondary at best. People on the receiving end of things made with AI know that. They are leery of being taken advantage of because AI can easily put out quantity where quality and accuracy may be lacking. Also, people don't like to be fooled. Often AI is used and not noted as being used. Instead, the person using the AI takes credit for it themselves. I haven't even gotten to the amount of energy AI uses, the jobs lost in the name of AI and so on.
Do you think people are afraid to admit they're using AI, out of fear of persecution?
Could be. I hadn't thought of it that way. I was thinking more like the person can't or isn't willing to put the work in to do something, so they use AI as a shortcut.
I suppose someone probably said something like that about the printing press, or the pocket calculator.