"There's no way you could write a 10 page paper without ChatGPT"
Pulls out a novel
Pulls out medical journal
Pulls out documentation for home insurance
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"There's no way you could write a 10 page paper without ChatGPT"
Pulls out a novel
Pulls out medical journal
Pulls out documentation for home insurance
chatgpt please summarize all 3 of these
This novel is about a vampire who found love
This medical journal suggests Cancer is bad
This home insurance covers fire damage
i just read 3 whole books in a hour everyone, its so easy
As people here might notice over time, I write long comments on Lemmy without even noticing, all without AI. I feel like a mutant, though not so much in a good way.
People used to call me the dictionary for having a ton of useless information, but now they call me chatgpt :(
I genuinely worked hard on learning an encyclopedia worth of knowledge and fun facts and I get compared to a hallucinating predictive text model. SMHOAT
That's crazy—It seems implausible to do that. As far as it goes for me—I can't imagine writing comments without AI—There's just so many words—No one has time for that.
The longer comments I write get the fewest upvotes.
Maybe you should turn your comments to tiktok dances?
Maybe people just don't like your opinions
I've been seeing more and more tradies respond to customer enquiries with llm generated emails. AFAIC that instantly means you get shitlisted.
If you can't even write a fucking email you are not working on my house. This is supposed to be your field of expertise and you outsourced even talking about it to something using fucking reddit and facebook as sources
As far as some costumers are concerned talking to them is all we should do. As though they are our only costumers.
No! We have shit to do! Being on the phone holding your hand all day doesn't get us paid.
The Feeling of Power by Isaac Asimov: https://archive.org/download/TheFeelingOfPower/The%20Feeling%20of%20Power.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeling_of_Power
Back then, you'd find usable info on the web. Now everything is buried under centuries worth of AI slop read. Plus it was more accepted to have blind spots on your knowledge. Now everyone using AI raises some bars and the only sucker not using AI gets a worse grade.
Also most professors try offsetting the cheaters by increasing exam weights, meanwhile people using chatbots finish all their homeworks in like 5 minutes and spend rest of their time studying for the test specifically.
Things were already pretty bad under 'clickbait' slop, AI has certainly exacerbated the issue.
I never learned to bullshit much, and my default behaviour when i don't know shit is doing nothing. Can anyone explain why i didn't get a degree?
Yup. This applies to every technology post-enlightenment technology. We didn't need cars, we didn't need the internet, we didn't need phones, we didn't need TV, we didn't need X-rays, we didn't need pharmaceuticals, we didn't need automated production and we certainly don't need anything to think for us.
It's strawman rage bait. You can say the same thing about sailing vs combustion engine shipping, programming via C on notepad vs modern development environments and languages, etc.
The missing context is the time required when you know what you're doing. And yeah sometimes walking is still faster than driving a car. But let's not pretend we're not seeing a major shift like industrialization or the internet. Both of which have fucked up society and the world in countless ways as much as it has benefited us.
I can write a solid 10 page well-researched paper out of a library in two weeks. With the internet, I can write that same paper with even better research in one week. With AI tools, I can write that same paper with better readability, conciseness, and overall editing in a couple days.
What's the cost? Probably not pretty, but the deadline is a lot shorter than it used to be now. And that's the reality most people will find themselves in now.
I can write a solid 10 page well-researched paper out of a library in two weeks. With the internet, I can write that same paper with even better research in one week. With AI tools, I can write that same paper with better readability, conciseness, and overall editing in a couple days.
The difference is that, despite you knowing how to reach the end goal, someone who doesn't understand any of what you do could match your output of "a couple days" in 3-4 days' time. It cheapens the value of actually understanding what you're talking about. Using LLMs might feel more immediately productive, but in the long term it's diluting the skill pool, making it harder to distinguish between deep and shallow knowledge, and allowing (the idea of) merit-based priority to land upon those who don't deserve it more often than it already does (not that I believe our society is largely merit-based anyways).
Sure, the knowledgable can get a lot more done in less time, but the unknowledgable can more easily pretend to be knowledgable, and that technical debt will accumulate heavily over time.
What they mean is "I couldn't write a 10-page paper without ChatGPT." And because they have very limited imaginations, they can't imagine other people being able to do something they can't.
And because they have very limited imaginations, they can't imagine other people being able to do something they can't.
Right wing "thought" in a nutshell right here too
"If I have not experienced [Insert thing here] it doesn't exist and is just a myth"
Unironically, this. 👆
Too many people can’t see beyond their own little bubble, and have a difficult time if someone challenges their myopic world view. e.g. I see this all too often in software development where developers will make their software “opinionated” (read: it does what they want it to do, and not what’s necessarily good for their users).
I digress. 😅
I agree on software to a point. You need some opinions. "everyone will use a mouse and keyboard, fuck controller users" is bad. But you need some direction to get things done "what system will this run on? Everything! So I'm expected to make a rts game similar to statcraft 2 able to be played on the switch? Yes! And controllable with dpad, joystick, mouse, keyboard, touchpad and a paraplegic wheelchair? Yes! Ok, I'll need 20 years to write this, and I'll quit in 4"
Im exaggerating but there does need to limits. "this will be playable on Playstation 5" or "this will require a 2080 or better, we are not supporting a voodoo2 vfx card..."
What they mean is “I couldn’t write a 10-page paper without ChatGPT.”
We used to have a tradition in this country. A tradition of looking up some other shit people wrote and dumping it into our own lazy, English 101 term papers with the hopes that the graders wouldn't notice.
Are we really so fucking lazy, as a society, that we can't even do plagarism properly anymore?
Unironically, if you aren’t capable of restructuring and consolidating other people’s ideas into your own format, how many modern office jobs are you even qualified for?
I’m about halfway through my degree and haven’t used AI for any of it 🤷♂️ Including at least two 10 page papers and I don’t even know how many 3-5 page ones, lol. I have no intention of changing that either, why would I want to dilute my writing voice or my line of reasoning throughout the paper? Writing is thinking, there are so many things you think you understand well until you sit down and try to explain it. That’s the point, that’s the process of learning.
If it was up to me I would accept a student doing a presentation instead of a final paper if they really struggled with writing, because I’ve seen professors do that and I think it teaches just as much (also it’s fun to watch people give presentations they’re enthusiastic about). But it has to be equivalent to the amount of writing you’d be doing, like 20 minutes to present 3-4 pages. But either way, AI isn’t going to teach you anything for either of those compared to doing the work yourself.
I'm in a field that decidedly does not value the written word beyond the minimum they need to understand and write emails, but I had to take a couple of writing classes in college.
I had to write several 10+ page papers, including research papers (like actual research, not "do your own research" research) before LLMs existed and I'm so fucking thankful for it. Nearly every single day I have to read the shit my colleagues write, and it's like they've never read a book in their entire lives. It's honestly tragic.
And this is a field full of ostensibly intelligent people.
Oh man, I asked Claude to summarize my commits and changes today, using the voice and structure of my usual daily updates.
It was fucking awful.
Claude spent 5 minutes on this then I had to review and edit anyway. I ended up spending 10 minutes writing down the what+why in a bullet list from scratch and it’s 100x clearer and better.
The AI neither did a better job nor saved me time.
I think you’re doing the right thing.
I'm not gonna feel any kind of sorry for an idiot that cannot imagine not needing a machine to do all of their thinking for them.
That's a literal real world NPC right there.
And shit, that's an insult to a fair number of NPCs, who have better writing, voice acting, and potentially GOAP driven tactics.
Fuck, sometimes even better facial animations.
Watching so many functioning adults and people alike just lobotomize themselves immediately when AI became a thing is just so fucking tragic
It is the prophecy foretold by our entire 20th/21st century concept of Zombies.
Its just that the vector for mind obliteration is primarily digital, not biological or supernatural.
It is the endpoint result of our laziness and preference for convenience.
When the rat in the skinner box gets a button wired to its brain that releases dopamine, the rat just hits the button untill it dehydrates/starves to death.
I read Death by Ecstasy by Larry Niven when I was a kid. The idea of "wire head" has stuck with me. It does look a lot like people staring at their phones, I've noticed.
Higher cognitive skills are a nightmare from which they managed to awake.
not that it can't be done,just you specifically couldn't do it 😂 (j/k)
Nah your lying. People back than had AI programmed directly inside there head. Nowadays kids have to use external AI models.
AI in this case meant "Actual Intelligence."