Dude, Proton email rats on its customers. Thats been documented and proven several times
this post was submitted on 20 May 2026
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Its poor opsec to pay with a credit card and expect a corp to violate court orders for you.
I'm not a fan of proton but we need to educate people about this instead of shaming a faceless corp for being a faceless Corp.
Oh look Proton is trying to score some PR bullshit when they will comply with the law just like they comply with the laws in their country. They are a greedy corporation who sells security theatre.
Firstly Proton is a non-profit.
Secondly security and privacy are two different things (albeit their connected).
Thirdly no company, for-profit or otherwise, is going to break the law for you.
There's following the law, and then there's giving away data to government agency just because they asked nicely, and could MAYBE get a warrant in the future. It is the equivalent of letting police into your house without a warrant, because maybe they'll get one.
You produmb defenders can't even get basic facts correct.
"Proton uses a unique hybrid model. The services are provided by a for-profit Swiss corporation called Proton AG with a primary shareholder that is non-profit."
So dumb it hurts, but by all means keep giving them your money. I heard they just doubled their price. Twice the price for the same stupidity.
You call people dumb then seem to not realize your undermining your own point...
Oh don't worry, I did this to Microsoft losers long ago, then Facebook, Google, Tesla, etc.
Talking shit about garbage services and companies is just a hobby of mine. Why so many bootlickers come scurrying out though has always been a surprise to me.
It's because people don't like to be publicly proven wrong or humilliated or whatever you want to call it. Unless they come to that conclusion themselves or you can express your point in more polite and less preachy manner, you'll always get significant pushback.
Next thing you're gonna criticize Amtrak for being for profit...
Come on guys, I was just messing around with all the dumb and stupid stuff. Don't prove me right, please.
You're the kind of guy who confuses and conflates security, privacy, and anonymity all the while somehow expecting companies to operate beyond the law.
You can't make this shit up. Hahahaha
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Kinda have to comply with laws mate
Yes, that is why them advertising as a privacy respecting company in a country whose laws force them to respect privacy has always been dumb. Literally every email provider has to follow the same law there hence their security theatre to sell overpriced access to email and their ever growing walled garden.
They don't have access to your email... They never did. They have some unencrypted metadata and your encrypted mail
Trust me it is bad. I guess perhaps you could say it is a problem with the system, but then you have to admit the service that shall not be named is nothing special.
They are not a Canadian company though, so they don't have to comply with Canadian laws.
They do not have to comply with Canadian laws unless they want to operate in Canada. Then they have to comply.
Do they comply with Chinese, Russian or American laws then?
China and Russia - Proton VPN does not work there.
USA - it works. Is there some laws I dont know about that USA has in order to gather data from VPN providers?
If they want to operate in canada they do
That’s not how any of this works.
How does it work?
They do business in Canada and with Canadians, so are subject to Canadian regulations for those activities.
Ford still has to comply with French law when they sell cars in France. GDPR applies to any business anywhere in the world if they interact with EU citizens.
Let's imagine they don't comply. What will happen then?
Fines
What happens if they don't pay?
Prosecution. This isn’t complex.
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