Let's stretch the story paper thin and make it feel like a cartoon while we tell an epic hero story.
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But it's like 10 books in one book.... if the hobbit was 3 movies this one would be 100
It would only be 30 (10x3). 🤷♂️
I was being hyperbolic, I know what 10x3 is lol
Yeah, well, prove it smart guy!
I think we need at least four movies:
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The Fall of the Noldor: from "as early as is reasonable" to somewhere between the rising of the sun and the establishment of the realms of the Noldor
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Beren and Lúthien. Put the Dagor Bragollach in the prologue.
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The Children of Húrin. Put the Nirnaeth Arnoediad in the prologue.
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The Fall of Gondolin and Raising of the Star. Put the War of Wrath and the fate of the Silmarils at the end of this movie.
I'm not sure where we can put the Fall of Doriath, but I'd put it in The Fall of Gondolin instead of Beren and Lúthien. I don't want to ruin the end of Beren and Lúthien by ending it with their son and grandsons killed.
He's also putting it out there that he wants to make a second Tintin movie. I suspect it's all just fishing to see if he can get investment or studio interest.
That was a part of why the Hobbit got screwed.
They were working with Guillermo Del Toro for like two years but didn’t get funding, so Guillermo left. Then Jackson started spinning up the project and got seriously sick, which left the crew to only able to keep practicing fancy camera angles and CGI stuff.
I was mad about the orcs, but in the hobbit it does describe that orcs and goblins are interchangeable, orc is the hobbit word for goblin. Agog is in the book, but dead for two generations, so I don’t know why they didn’t just keep it to Bolg as the nemesis.
The elf romance is unforgivable.
Thor being curt and overly direct is wrong, in the book he speaks for hours without saying anything. Except after he finds Bilbo took the arkenstone, then he’s pretty directly a dick.
Gandalf dealing with the necromancer really isn’t something for the movie either, as it’s the Hobbit. That would be fine in the silmarilion though. Technically it is in the hobbit but only in passing, as Gandalf tells the elves about it but doesn’t really talk to Bilbo directly.
Jackson's pre-LotR movies are pretty good. The Frighteners is a really great movie. I'm not a fan of what he did to LotR at all. The magic (for want of a better word) was lost in favour of being a action movie for popcorn-munching audiences. Far too much was altered or left out and the world of Middle Earth became far too ordinary and realistic. I completely agree with you especially about The Hobbit where the tone is absolutely wrong.
An adaptation of Beren and Luthien or Children of Hurin could be great
These two would be the obvious choices, being the stories where the characters even actually do get some characterizatization.
The big problem with the film adaptations would be laying out the setting of the First Age properly to audiences who would not be familiar with the story. It would need a lot of worldbuilding to get it right.
The Silmarillion is my favourite book and I would love to see it done right. There is hope, even if it is slim.
This is one of the few cases where I'd be happy with splitting the book into multiple films. A film for each of the 4 epics of the first age: the creation myth up through the War of Wrath, Beren and Lúthien, the Children of Húrin, and the Fall of Gondolin (with an epilogue showing the sinking of Beleriand and the founding of Númenor).
I just hope they get Galadriel right this time and show her as the timeless badass she really is, instead of the whiny child she comes off as in Rings of Power
It's gonna be awful most likely. At least if it goes out the Hobbit way we can get fanedits that cut out the bad stuff and make it more book accurate.
They should get the director who made the LotR movies. /s
If the studio does not take too much creative control it could be fine. Hobbit was supposed to be 2 kovies originally but then the studio started meddling
Do you know of a good fan edit of the hobbit?
The M4 book edit. Tries to stick to the book as close as possible, trimming the 3 movies into one 4hr long movie (he even replaced Bard's son with a wooden beam in the scene where Smaug is killed). Also adds an extra of some of the cut out stuff gandalf does.
The Silmairillion is my favorite Tolkein. I've got zero interest in an adaptation