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[–] magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Yay Mississippi, I guess?

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Screens. Its screens. Dont give them a device. Give them a book and have the teacher teach them how to read. Slow them down and remove distractions.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I love mobile tech. I've been using it for years, I've advocated for its use, recommended it to others, helped many set it up. And as much as I really HATE to say it, I was wrong.

To be fair- the problem isn't the tech, the problem is the applications- social media 'scrolling' apps and short form video to be specific. But these days those apps are basically impossible to separate from phones and iPads.

And when the asshole algorithm based attention seekers (Meta, TikTok, Google, etc) came around, I and those like me had given them all a direct mainline IV into peoples eyeballs. We had good intentions- we never wanted mobile tech to become this. We never saw it coming. But we should have.

Unfortunately @Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world, at this point I think your answer is the only one we've got left. I've seen what passes for 'kid friendly' on an iPad- bright colors, happy music, think CocoMelon in an app. Or worse, short form videos- we let our kids spend 6 hours a day watching 30 second videos, and then wonder why they can't focus in class for more than 45 seconds. Yeah there's no porn, but it might as well be digital crack cocaine for the brain.

So yeah, at this point I think for our own good we need to roll this back like a failed update. Go back to dead-tree books and textbooks, or at the very least, downgrade to E-Ink or monochrome LCD so the screen is less engaging than the real world, not more.

Finally, and most importantly, we need to re-evaluate our relationship with boredom. Boredom sucks, but it also leads to inspiration and creativity. Scrolling apps essentially eliminate boredom, because however much time you have to kill, there's always more content to fill it. And I think that's a bad thing- we need a little boredom.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Besides flaws in supposed more modern methods of teaching (personally I fucking hate rote memorization, it is boring), too many distractions aka entertainment options more than ever. Especially on mobile devices.

Only fanatical bookworms do visit book fairs and defend public libraries from being dismantled.

[–] angband@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What about the other 12 states?

[–] benderbeerman@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I like to think that Oregon isn't included because it shifts the curve too aggressively. To the left.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Also in Europe. It's obviously related to unrestricted smart phone proliferation.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

They think they are smarter though. Beacause Tiktok told them so.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The inconvenient truth for us old shits is that the parents are at fault mostly. Mostly we were powerless to stop it of course, but also many of us used our own money and our own will to buy our kids those devices and then let them use them freely.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago
[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

The US is working its way toward illiteracy. Republicans need this to install a permanent set of oligarchs in the government.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Damnit NYT, states have an abbreviation standard!

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Journalists have always used the old postal abbreviations. It's part of the Associated Press style.

The NYT has its own style guide that doesn't always match the AP.

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[–] Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wtf is going on in Vermont in particular?

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Vermont is poor and mostly rural. It has seen poor economic growth the last decade and residents have been leaving the state in droves. It was gutted by the rising of AirBNB rentals and then the pandemic.

Most of the economy is just rich people going there to vacation, who have drastically shot up the cost of living, prices out the locals, just like Colorado and other outdoor recreation areas. A lot of the local places were also bought up my Vale, etc.

[–] mabeledo@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I would like to know what’s the influence of first generation immigration in these charts, because the states are kind of shit at reporting that.

My kids speak Spanish. They can read in both Spanish and English, but they learned Spanish first, so it took them a while to catch up in English. Many of their classmates come from Spanish speaking families, English is their second language, and they have a bit more of trouble. The issue here is that state level standardized testing doesn’t seem to care about Spanish at all, so you may find a bunch of very smart kids who score below average just because they speak more than one language, which is frankly insane.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Something like 22% of the US speaks something other than English at home. I wonder how this plays a role. I have no data beyond this, but it's just something I've wondered about.

My kids district is a diverse one, I think white is just barely the majority, and it's a real smattering of all sorts otherwise. There are a lot of kids who come from parents who clearly speak no English. And so when test results come out, they don't look great for the school, but it's kinda like no shit, we have kids learning English for the first time, of course they won't test well.

So for this reason, I see how my kids are doing, I read with them, I do math with them, and if things seem good then they seem good, and I'm not personally going to stress over test score trends schoolwide, and certainly not statewide or nationally.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (8 children)

A big part of the issue is a lot of states abandoning “phonic” based teaching for “whole language”. In phonics the focus is on teaching how letters come together to form the sound of a word, while whole language is based on just memorizing the pronunciation of words. kids being taught how to sound out words will take longer to get to a point of being able to read out short simple text, but whole language can get them reading simple stuff with all the words they’ve already been taught very quickly.

The problem is that when you move past simple stuff only using words they’ve memorized, a kid taught to sound out words will be able to figure out words they haven’t seen before, meaning that they can start to learn new words passively just by reading more complex books. The whole language taught kids need to learn every new word by instruction or by just guessing based on context, making it much harder and slower. It gets frustrating quickly and kids taught this way rarely develop a real interest in reading due to that difficulty.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They're not even taught how to use context or subtext to understand a word they don't know. It would actually be more helpful if they did instead of just letting them go ahead and invent an entire new meaning for words they don't know.

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago

New Mexico didn't even need to defend their position, but they did anyway. True goat right there

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

NJ again lowkey goated

Damn, New Mexico is really eating shit huh? Wonder why it's so bad there specifically.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

NM is one of the poorest states in the country. With no real major cities, there’s a lack of opportunity. Also, the eastern counties are as red as rural Texas.

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 124 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The uneducated don't ask questions or suspect they're being taken advantage of. This is by design.

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[–] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 70 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Fun fact on why Missisipi, of all the places, improved: they introduced a law that a child cannot be promoted to next year if they do not pass reading proficiency test.

Who knew the shame of repeating a year can be motivator enough for kids and parents.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

To point the problem more clearly.

If student Numbskull repeats the grade. That means the their low scores affect you in Year 1 and Year 2. That's funding directly affecting you, your compensation, your ability to remain employed for you, the teacher, and all of the admin staff.

It's much better (for you) to push them along and make them someone else's problem.

It's like the Peter Principal in action.

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[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it’s more than that: they’ve been hiring literacy coaches to sit in on and improve literacy classes across the state and increasing government reach into local education

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/10/podcasts/the-daily/mississippi-schools-test-scores.html

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 hours ago

Mississippi making massive gains. lol

[–] mellibird@feddit.online 15 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Something I've also noticed lately. Basic fucking math. I more often than not pay in cash, and recently I've had more than one person at more than one place give me incorrect change. And just not like a few cents, but dollars amount wrong. And when I try correcting them they're so adamant they're right even when I'm like... dude, you owe me 50 cents, not 3 dollars.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have, on multiple occasions paid an an amount that would have someone give me $5 back in change or exact cents, then had them be utterly confused and have to pull out a calculator.

But like, if the total is 17.75, and I hand them $22.75. I'm expecting the person to be able to figure out I'm making it simpler for them.

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