Can we be honest here? They are to the right of Regan right fucking now
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Regan, man some of them are to the right of the Reich.
I've always been radical.
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KOLANAKI
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I think we shouldn't kill people and I think individuals shouldn't have more power than entire states, that makes me far left 🤷
Corporations are people. The death of such people is pleasing to see.
Sounds like extremist terrorist talk to me
I am so extreme I wish my worst enemies to have living conditions
Actually the centrists are right-wing. Social Democrats are centrist compared to mainstream Europe, but even EU nations have drifted rightward thanks to neoliberalism.
Capitalism ruins everything.
No war but class war.
What I find frustrating about American centrists is that they don't even realise they are centre right-- thanks to the weird corporate media indoctrination keeping the Overton window on the capitalist framework. They can be socially progressive but economically right. They look down on the working class by refusing to acknowledge the effects of offshoring and deindustrialisation on the latter. If you ask American centrists if they favour building affordable housing, you get cricket noises.
American centrists are maybe socially progressive, but they think social justice is separate from economic justice.
"Everything should be private, the State should not Regulate that which Money cares about in any way form or shape and Genocidal Fascism is fine as long as it's abroad" isn't center-right, it's hard right, Facism-adjacent even.
People in the comments like > I'm an anarcho-liberal socialist-libertarian-progressive
Stop it! There are only two political genders: left and right. That is how god made us!
I'm a libertarian commie myself (not a tankie). The overton window has shifted so far to the right that people are fully convinced that socdems are leftist. Socdems are like the bare friggin' minimum and it's crazy how many people don't realise that.
Libertarian communism? Does that mean every business is a CO-OP?
How would you prevent the state from favoring one CO-OP over the other and creating a co-op monopoly by favoritism?
Sorry, not trying to attack you. I'm a radical leftist and libertarian communism is sort of the most Lemmy thing I've ever heard.
Workers control everything, basically. It's hard to put all into one comment, but it's a bit like anarchism. Considering that I'm fairly new to Lemmy, I take that as a compliment. Plus, private property isn't a thing under this system.
Left libertarian we generally call Anarchist.
Me trying to figure out if OP means true left or Tankie bullshit before commenting:

I see a lot of people on Lemmy recently claiming to be left but also trying to tell me how democracies are bad. -_-
Are they literally saying "democracy is bad" or are they saying American "democracy" isn't worth preserving?
I see a lot of people on Lemmy recently claiming to be left but also trying to tell me how democracies are bad. -_-
Probably the case, although it's important not to dismiss people for criticizing liberal democracy - the system that has repeatedly put us in the mess we're in now. There are plenty of issues which are wildly popular regardless of political alignment but which liberal democracy fails to deliver, so to consider it a democracy at all, simply because most people get voting rights to pick representatives, is very debatable.
There are plenty of other forms of democracy, many which have been successfully run in communities of hundreds of thousands of people (consider Zapatistas, Cheran, and more).
I see a lot of people on Lemmy recently claiming to be left but also trying to tell me how democracies are bad. -_-
Anarchists argue against democracy for their own separate reasons. I am only beginning to grasp the nuance, but there is a distinction.
I suggest engaging an anarchist/somebody versed on the topic to learn more, or read up here on the fediverse ~~or shudders on Reddit.~~ EDIT: Actually, don't go there.
The more I think about democracies the more I realise they're flawed by design. Asking people for vote as now synonymous with essentially marketing. Most people are unable to understand when they're being marketed to.
A benevolent dictator would be sooo much better, but then even by miracle you get a benevelont one, chances of the next one being benevelont are shit.
So I don't know what the solution is. But we sticked to the flawed solution for now.
Athenian democracies solve a lot of our current issues. It's a bit like jury duty. You put your own name down and can be picked for roles in government.
France did that after the yellow vest protests. They randomly picked 100 citizens to lead a citizens Senate to propose solutions, and Macron promised to implement their suggestions (he lied. Only partial implementation happened)
One of the emergent properties to picking 100 random citizens is you get close to a random sample of society. Rich and poor, left and right all with different perspectives and life experiences. They all have to argue their perspective and back it up with evidence for it to function properly.
They also can't be bought out the same way as entrenched parties. The candidates are random. Nobody knows until the results are announced.
It also results in a much stronger sense of civic duty for the average citizen when you participate in the civic process regularly like this.
This video does a far better job than I can making the case for them
Athenian democracies solve a lot of our current issues. It’s a bit like jury duty. You put your own name down and can be picked for roles in government.
Democracies need a system to set long term goals and kick out any politicians violating the goals.
This is the catch that the greek philosophers warned about. Democracies are vulnerable to manipulation, demagoguery, and shortsightedness. A functional democracy requires maintaining a high level of societal quality, education, ethics, stability, and aggressively restricting consolidation of wealth and power. The US failed to do any of these things, and has descended into neofeudalism, where the govern_ed_ no longer have any influence over their govern_ment_.
The US didn’t fail to do those things, it never had any intention of even trying to do those things. This is because the people in power fundamentally do not want actual democracy. They want a system where those with wealth are able to dictate the rules. And funnily enough, the system they created is perfectly designed to allow them to do so.
If the people actually want political democracy, then they need to democratize the economy first. No more private ownership of the means of production, no more rampant inequality, no more capitalism.
I think it will be a lot better if we could punish liars. If the population had access to trustworthy information and an accessible way to vote, we could have a true democracy.
I have been radicalized by ::gestures_widely::.
What radicalized me? Basic empathy.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag ... with liberty and justice for all" Like everyday we had to say that and now they expect us to ignore it.
Pledge of allegiance is totally not brainwashing at all. Nope. Not at all whistles
