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No credible nonproliferation policy begins by pretending not to see the bombs your ally already has.

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[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The US isn't interested in non-proliferation. The US is interested in keeping all non-Israel countries to heel, and non-proliferation just provides the right excuse.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

We blew past nonproliferation like long ago, as soon as Russia was allowed to invade Ukraine after Ukraine GAVE UP THE NUKS THEY HAD it was clear to anyone with a fleas understanding of geopolitics is that the lesson of the 20th and 21st centuries is to get nukes as soon as possible and then never ever ever give them up. It’s the only thing to curb the bullying power of the larger and more powerful states

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That the US gave them. So much for “non-proliferation”

[–] Geologist@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This seems like a bad, revisionist take. France kick started Israel’s nuke program, and they tested their stuff with South Africa.

During the development of their program, I don’t think the US and Israel were even on good terms.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

France kick started Israel’s nuke program, and they tested their stuff with South Africa.

These things can never be truly confirmed, but rumor has it that their original stockpile of uranium came from US labs.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Omg they have nukes????? ??

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Have a look at the Vela incident.

They don't just have nukes, they're one of a select few countries that refuse to sign the nonproliferation act, and refuse any inspection into how many they have.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Probably since the 90s yeah

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] redsand@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago

Something about france and south Africa and egypt and Turkey. Been a long long time since i went down that particular rabbit hole

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's like 99% certain they purchased both the material and plans from France.

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Actually in collaboration with apartheid South Africa during the sanctions against them and using technology that Israel stole from the US

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucking French. If they aren't laying down their weapons they're selling them.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

If they aren’t laying down their weapons they’re selling them.

Couldn't be a more accurate definition.

[–] panthera_@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

Incorrect. Stop new countries from acquiring nuclear weapons and reduce excess stockpiles of nuclear bombs.