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    foss nerds stop being condescending to those who don't know the same things you do challenge (impossible) (files.catbox.moe)
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    alt textAn edit of xkcd 2501, "Average Familiarity":
    [Ponytail and Cueball are talking. Ponytail has her hand raised, palm up, towards Cueball.]
    Ponytail: Open-source alternatives are second nature to us foss nerds, so it's easy to forget that the average person probably only knows Linux and one or two degoogled Android ROMs.
    Cueball: And Firefox, of course.
    Ponytail: Of course.

    [Caption below the panel]
    Even when they're trying to compensate for it, experts in anything wildly overestimate the average person's familiarity with their field.

    partly inspired by the replies to this post but i see this kind of thing all the time (shoutout to the person who once genuinely asked "who still uses google these days?")

    made with this neat tool

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    [–] ian@feddit.uk 1 points 4 hours ago

    If only they knew what the word average meant.

    [–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 3 points 14 hours ago

    Every group of nerds assumes average person knows more about their obsession...

    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    I can never see any media hosted from files catbox.moe, am I the only one?

    [–] spoopy@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

    Do you happen to live in Spain during a football game

    [–] Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

    Looks like there's an outage at the moment

    [–] sleet01@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

    Condescension means "patronizing attitude or behavior"; your comic doesn't show condescension so you probably need the dictionary definition spelled out.

    .../s

    [–] trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

    That's why I try to show people I know how to get FOSS alternatives for their everyday apps. It takes a bit of patience but trust me when I say this: Most people are more tech savvy than you think, they just don't wanna go through a judging community.

    [–] Jaimesmith@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    The β€œwho still uses Google?” crowd forgets most people just want their computer to work, not become a weekend side quest.

    [–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    Honestly, switching search engines is pretty normie friendly. I've got a lot of non-techy friends or family, that use Ecosia or something. They also did it on their own, I didn't even encourage them to do it.

    With things like Linux it's a bit harder. But if they don't rely on any specialized software, they are usually fine with me offering to upgrade their Laptops so Linux. I installed Linux Mint on my Mom's Laptop and she can use it as well as Windows. She never complained about it.

    [–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    oh man it sures takes all my weekend to install firefox and set a search engine

    [–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

    It's surprising the number of people who don't do that last part

    [–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

    Nonsensical argument. Just because a piece of software is FLOSS and non-Google, it is not automatically a "weekend side quest". Big Tech is very happy that these false equivalencies have spread as well as they did, but they don't hold a kernel of truth, at least not anymore.

    [–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    I get the point, but going away from Google search is so easy.

    Gmail on the other hand I understand why people are still stuck using and I don't push them to switch away.

    But it drives me nuts that some normies in my life will complain that Google has gone worse, still refuse to switch. There are some who don't know how to change default and I still get it, but there is one mf at my work, he changed his default in edge from bing to Google and when I said since you know how to change default why not use DDG or startpage or honestly any other non giant alternative. He just says too much work.

    [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    Gmail was about easiest to switch away from. You can just create a new email account and have two mailboxes. Then update the new email to services as they go.

    [–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    With banks and financial services in general being a bitch about changing contact details. That's a form and a visit to the branch for each bank, broker, investment advisor, direct fund provider. That's already almost 30 applications. I haven't even counted stuff like vehicular services, government tax portal, property tax portal, electricity provider, gas provider, internet provider. Not all of whom allow changing for email address digitally or without some complicated support ticket.

    It's such a mountain of changes I myself have only gotten through the list halfway and it's been 4 years of trying. I can never recommend that to anyone in my family, they'll just hate me.

    [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    I think it might be specific to your country and it sucks.

    Here, banks are required to ask you to update your contact details once a year. You just log in as usually and sometimes they just give you a form to fill out with your phone number, email, physical address and stuff. If it's unchanged, you leave it all unchanged.

    [–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 1 points 13 hours ago

    Sounds like a dream.

    [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    Wow never thought about that, I changed it to all those digitally and it didn’t require much at all. One service required me to send an email and that felt a bit old-fashioned, but nothing like you described.

    [–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    Yeah it's fucked. And the worst part is, most of these places don't even open on non working days, so I can't even do these on weekend.

    My country does have identity theft problem running rampart, so I don't totally blame the services, it's a pain but at least a leaked email password here and there wouldn't automatically mean losing access to finance. I understand why it's been designed such a way, but man it's a such a mountain of a task.

    [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago

    Yeah it’s fucked. And the worst part is, most of these places don’t even open on non working days, so I can’t even do these on weekend.

    Yes, because what working adult would have difficulties going to places between 9 and 5 on workdays

    It's so stupid. If you're going to have your physical location open exactly 5 days a week for a super important service people need to get to in person... make it tuesday thru saturday or something.

    [–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago

    Good luck in your endeavour in case you go that way. I guarantee it feels nice to read those emails in another provider knowing that Google isn’t sniffing around.

    [–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

    The other day my wife was talking about her new job and having to take notes. For the past 30 years I've been keeping notes in text, then markdown in vim, starting with personal scripts, then vimwiki. A coworker showed me Obsidian, which while not FLOSS, does use an open standard for all its files. It pretty much does what my setup does.

    Then it dawned on me that my wife and other non-techies just use whatever their computer has on it by default (i.e. OneNote). She never thought to go out and look for better productivity software. The idea that there is tons of better apps out there doesn't register. She has a phone, knows about the app store and gets tons of stuff there but as for her desktop or laptop the idea of apps outside of MS Office and the video games she plays is lost on her.

    [–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    I feel obligated to mention Logseq here. It's similar to obsidian, but FLOSS (AGPL-v3).

    [–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

    I'm loving Logseq. It's the open source software I support monthly. It (plus what I learned from "Building a Second Brain" by Tiago Forte) changed my life. Having a low-barrier (daily journal everything) place to dump everything (easily discoverable later with back-linking tags) helps me manage my ADHD.

    I highly recommend it. Once you wrap your head around the idea that the daily journal is where you dump just about everything, it's pretty smooth sailing. (The daily journal automatically dates everything, then the pages themselves automatically pull a reverse chronological feed of every time you wrote about the thing, and queries allow for more targeted, dynamic searching, like all tasks due in the next week, or all tasks for the project, etc.)

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