Love how they translate the price to USD when sadly there’s no way in hell well ever see this car in the US.
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All great and I'd love it BUT
Will it track the shit out of me?
And before anyone goes "But Murrica!", I don't give a shit. I don't care who wants to spy on me, the USA, China, Russia, fuck all those dictator governments, I want NOBODY spying on me.
I want MY car, if I really need one, to be MY car, and nobody else's.
Will it track the shit out of me?
They have Android Auto and Apple's car thing, so yeah.
I think that if the cars themselves had hidden malicious spy shit, other manufacturers would be paying some very concerned journalists to keep pointing it out.
They don't point it out because they all do it. Mozilla did a study, reviewed 25 major car brands, said it couldn't recommend any of them for data privacy.
I assume OP meant undisclosed spying. Everything else would be up to local legislation, and that's probably not great anywhere tbh
I can't find their actual terms and conditions, but BYD's privacy-washing page says they're compliant to the GDPR and the EU Guidelines on Personal Data Protection in Connected Vehicles, whatever good that does
Well, it's technically disclosed in fine print I'm sure, but hardly anybody is aware of the level of snooping their car is actually doing. There is no need or room for undisclosed spying, it is already spying on pretty much everything you do inside it or on phones connected to it, in the US anyway. I don't know how much better protections are in the EU either.
Why give the lrice in USD when the people who need them most in the US will not be able to buy them?
To specifically spur ground-up pressure on the US government to try to allow BYD and other manufacturers direct access to the US market, since there are effectively no EV manufacturers in the US except Tesla.
My Bolt EUV was made here. (I'm pretty sure, anyway.) That said, it was more expensive than $22,000 and is almost certainly not as good.
Probably all made locally. I was surprised the LG batteries were made in Michigan.
I have a soft spot for the Bolt. It has a great name and it helped (PH)EVs gain traction. But, yeah, you can get better cars.
My spot for it is downright squishy, I love the thing for various reasons in its context. I'm sure we could do better, though.
It’s a 68kWh pack. The 5 min metric is 60% of that. So 41kWh. To do that in 5 min would require 490kW chargers. This is pretty much only available from the latest Tesla super chargers. So while it’s great that the car can support that, articles about it should include the fact that there is very limited support in charging networks for it.
All 3 metrics are important to evaluate together:
- Peak power draw, in watts, describes one type of limitation in charging, that exists somewhere in the chain between the grid itself, the charger, the charge controller, and the batteries. Showing off a very high charging capability on this metric is impressive (for a charger/car combination), and usually shows the bottleneck is somewhere else. Sometimes it's even in the electrical substation where a rack of several chargers can each deliver high power but can't charge every station at full power simultaneously
- Total energy delivered over a particular amount of time (aka average power). High peak power needs to be sustained to be useful.
- Percentage charge delivered over a particular amount of time. The nature of modern batteries means that the maximum charging speed has to slow down closer to each cell's full charge. So charging from 40% to 60% can be much faster than charging from 80% to 100%, even if the total energy transferred and stored is the same.
All 3 matter. #1 is an engineering flex and helps avoid bottlenecks into #2, which you correctly describe as being an important metric, and affects just how far you can expect to drive off of that charge. And #3 translates into actual user experience, which is also really important. None of the three metrics can be assumed by simple multiplication of the others, because none of it goes at constant rates in all contexts.
I'd really love to see how one of these does here in Northern Canada. There are almost no electric vehicles here because of the performance of batteries in the long, cold winter.
Isn't that similar to Norway where now almost no non-EV cars are being sold?
No, big difference. In Northern Norway, average temp in January is -4C, in Northern Canada it’s -40C.
That sounds awful to deal with. Sometimes I wonder why people live in such conditions but I guess that's just humanity for you.
Also cool fact -40C is -40F
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Yeah.... My usual experience is to connect to 150kW changer and get half of that. Better battery will not magically fix shitty infrastructure.
That's awesome!
I'd love to have one that's a small form truck or mini-van with a flat front for maximum visibility and minimum footprint.
To be perfect: Absolutely no touch screens allowed, no internet, no satellite, honestly I'm good without Bluetooth. Make it feel like a 90s vehicle, but electric.
I missed it in the article, does it say how well it holds its charge compared to non-fast-charged ones? That tends to be the limiting factor in many things, as it's much harder on the battery. I doubt they'd be pushing it if it wasn't an improvement though
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Does it use proprietary charging infrastructure?
Probably not but good luck finding a 600 kW charger to support that speed
88 mph and a clocktower during a thunderstorm?
Yeah, good luck knowing precisely when lightning will strike the tower.
I think I got an idea about how to make it work, but I knocked my head on the bathroom and forgot how.
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