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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Damn. I didn't realize it was so drastic. 100% fatality rate seems crazy, even rounded

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 51 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

This needs to be updated.

Getting hit by a pickup truck at 30 MPH is similar to getting hit by a Honda Civic at 120 MPH for kinetic energy.

That's besides the fact that pickups have a much taller hood vs sedans so there are significantly higher rates of head/internal injury.

Taller cars and trucks are more dangerous for pedestrians, according to crash data

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/complete-streets-chicago/home/traffic-safety/vehicle-size-and-speed.html

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So my curved front sports car is totally safe to ram into pedestrians with?

/S

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'd rather be hit by that at 20 MPH instead of a full duty lifted pickup with a fresh shiny paint job on chrome wheels (mall crawlers)

I don't think pickup trucks should be banned. They should be commercial use only. It's not a family car or a daily driver.

Fuck mall crawlers

[–] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And then there is the SUV class. Aka the non-passenger work vehicle family passenger vehicle.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

So they passed laws for emissions and fuel efficiency of passenger vehicles to help with pollution.

These laws force MPG ratings on sedans and SUVs. But they're looser for trucks. Car manufacturers realized its also looser since its calculated by weight.

So these fuckers decide to build SUVs on pickup truck frames and make pickups even bigger so they don't have to tighten up the fuel efficiency...

This is one of the main reasons there are so many bigger class vehicles being made now.

Add in all the new LED headlights. Which are too bright because the regulations are outdated based on wattage instead of lumens.

So you have taller vehicles with brighter headlights blinding everyone.

I'm at the point where I'm aiming for a SUV instead of a sedan for my next car...

[–] trillian@feddit.org 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I am not sure why the difference in energy related to vehicle mass is relevant here as humans have an insignificant amount of mass compared to either vehicle, so transferred energy should be roughly the same. However, the difference in how the collision plays out (pulled under Vs thrown above) should be a huge impact

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The higher mass and force transmitted by a truck means the human will be thrown further and possible impact other objects at a higher speed

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Not all of that energy is transferred. The car doesn't stop as if it hit a wall. Usually it barely slows down. The human on the other hand gains at most the kinetic energy corresponding to their body mass and the speed of a human bouncing forward off the car at around the same speed as the car was going, so a tiny fraction. Of course impact geometry will determine the specifics and pickups suck there too. The important thing about kinetic energy is that it's dependant on the square of the velocity. That's why speed kills. The mass is just a linear relation.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

The issue is energy transfer doesn't care about weight of the human, more kinetic energy will impart more speed to the human during the impact impulse. Imagine a solid bowling ball hitting a beach ball vs a plastic hollow bowling ball hitting a beach ball

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Now do light rail, trains, and busses.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Those tend to be more predictable than cars in terms of where they'll be

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago

Great now do SUVs for the Americans. Go ahead and assume they are not simultaneously being shot at just for the purpose of keeping the simulation simple.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Jokes on you, I don't know kilometers

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 hours ago

somebody posted this in the comment above yours 13 minutes before you commented ☞

Kinetic energy = mass*velocity^2 in action. Faster you go the harder you stop.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 3 points 6 hours ago

I remember a public safety ad being shown that showed the difference in either 30 and 35mph or 30 and 40mph. Was quite dramatic.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Local news:

https://www.koin.com/local/clackamas-county/notorious-intersection-portland-driver-speeds-hits-car-before-crash-milwaukie-police-say/

"The officer spotted a grey BMW going 87 MPH in a 40 MPH zone"

For our European friends:

87 MPH = 140 KPH
40 MPH = 64.4 KPH

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago

Why Europe? Most of the world uses KM/H.