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[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 89 points 4 days ago (1 children)

okay i don't believe in unicorns, centaurs and fauns, so they exist too? that's such a stupid statement, undone in a single sentence, kthxbye

[–] taldennz@lemmy.nz 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Personally, I don't believe in bunnies made of marshmallow living on the moon.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't believe there is a suitcase full with money under my bed.

Edit: fuck

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 days ago

It was worth a shot

[–] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i hope the Artemis 2 crew takes pictures of them soon!

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'd rather they photograph the nazis on the dark side of the moon so we can track those fuckers.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They moved to the White House.

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[–] EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

He should have stuck to cocaine. That's dumb too but at least he wouldn't say something like that because he couldn't accept any gods next to himself

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A more respectable profession.

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[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hey Tim!

Do you believe in the flying spaghetti monster?

No?

So, that means it does exist for you to not believe in it, right? Or are you just some no-talent has-been who needs to stop speaking in public?

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mandatory relevant Douglas Adams:

"I refuse to prove that I exist,'" says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says Man, "The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Every time I see a Douglas Adams quote, it brings me back to the joy I felt discovering him about 35 years ago. Thanks!

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There has to be a monster under my bed for me not to believe in it.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Monster here. I'm tired. Could you stop not believing in me so I can cease to exist, please?

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Athiests don't exist.

Atheists, on the other hand...

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm only real when I jerk off with my other hand. got it.

check mate theists.

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[–] derry@midwest.social 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He really thinks he's the smartest person in the room because he made a once popular tv show and several funny movies, doesn't he. I believe he should go back to grunting and tools, at least he made sense then

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I remember feeling weird about Home Improvement as a kid/teen during its original run. It had its funny moments, but then it also had stupid shit, like a debate about whether men or women were better, with Tim's argument winning because women didn't invent/discover as many things as men did. I remember yelling at the screen, "Of course women didn't do those things, because men have been holding women back for thousands of years!"

Young-me was just pissed because Tim made a stupid argument that could be used by idiot boys next time they wanted to dismiss me or other girls. I thought it was a mistake. Adult-me is pissed because now I can see that he was a bigot all along. The omission of women's plight wasn't a mere overlook of history, but a point that Tim would've never addressed on his show in the first place. Suppression of inconvenient facts is probably baked into his brain by now.

[–] lobut@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Men also took credit for women's discoveries and inventions too.

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[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The incorrect assumption here is that disbelief is an active state. Denouncment and denial may be active states of thought, but disbelief is a passive state. Like the way that on and off are an active and passive state, respectively. The argument that disbelief implies the denial of something that therefore must exist to be denied at all is inherently flawed by this assumption. If I, being in a state of ignorance of subject "x", would have neither belief nor disbelief in "x", but total unawareness of "x"s potential existence as a subject. To then be told by an outside perspective that "x" exists and I must believe in that existence without any proof of the claimed state of "x", I could choose to continue without further consideration of "x" and my existence would continue without belief or disbelief in "x", only knowledge of that concept existing for outside perspectives. However, I could more easily explain this reasoning to others with the simple statement "I do not believe in "x"." My statement would be reductive and simplistic, yes, but would do nothing to prove that "x" must exist and hold my belief because I have any knowledge of its concept.

The claim must be proven by the one making it, not the one being told of it.

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[–] BillDaCatt@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

From my perspective, the argument for the existence of a god has always had one fatal flaw: in all of our human discoveries that were once attributed to a god or gods, none of them actually require a god to make them happen.

Is it possible that there is some kind of being that created our reality? Sure. But how do we recognize that? Where are the moments that only a god could accomplish? If we want to prove that God was responsible for an event, we must first consider if the event could happen without a god. Every time I have looked at a question from that perspective, no gods were required. That is why I do not believe.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is it possible that there is some kind of being that created our reality?

If a being created everything, what created that being?

If that being sprang into existence, then it would be simpler for the universe to have sprung into existence without that extra step.

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The funniest thing about this photo is the look on his face, like he's thinks he's really onto something here

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I don't appreciate some of you being so flippant with one of the greatest minds of our time, Tim Allen. I, for one, appreciate him weighing in on the toughest questions we wrestle with.

He's like a modern day Descartes!

[–] dont@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (16 children)

He’s got a point, but somehow mucked it up.

Atheism is faith without proof that there is no god. So atheism, too, is a religious belief.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You can’t have faith in the non-existence of something. That is the default state of all concepts.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It has nothing to do with faith in a deity.

It’s a belief that no such thing could exist without having any actual confirmation.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (11 children)

No. That’s not how anything works. The maker of a claim must provide the proof.

Take the Invisible Pink Unicorn, which is standing right behind you right now. You are not an anti-unicornist because you think I’m full of shit.

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[–] yakko@feddit.uk 16 points 4 days ago

It's true that all beliefs are a leap of faith to some degree. I would have difficulty stating a belief that "there is no fly in this room" simply because I have not detected it. I am fly-agnostic.

It is also however true, that we can dismiss without proof anything that is alleged without proof. If you tell me there is a fly but I cannot find it, I need not subscribe to fly-agnosticism to presume you were mistaken!

[–] mr_account@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (5 children)

That's like saying "not collecting stamps is my hobby"

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The lack of proof about the existence of something is very different from believing in something without proof.

I believe unicorns don't exist because there is no proof they do. That is not a "religious" belief in the sense of "I choose to believe they don't exist and I don't need or want proof". If such proof were to be provided, I will happily reconsider my position.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I personally wouldn't even say I believed in them if they were proven to exist. I would state that I understand – or know – that they do.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago (8 children)

You can't prove a negative my man.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago

Atheism does not profess any such faith. The null hypothesis is always presumed correct unless evidence is presented for the alternative hypothesis. Non-existence is kind of the ontological null hypothesis for basically everything, going all the way back to "I think therefore I am." From there we have entire branches of philosophy which deal with the nature of perception, knowledge and truth which leads us to several ideas for inferring "existence" through various combinations of observation and reasoning.

Famously though, influential modernists like Kant and Hegel and Hume all tried to reform the idea of "God" into a question of the abstract rather than the concrete, which leads into a much more interesting semantic conversation. Eg, like you can say the phenomenonical unicorn exists because we understand the abstraction without needing to observe it directly. But at the same time, we can say that nobody has ever observed the material Unicorn, or "unicorn in itself." Likewise, atheists can acknowledge God as an abstract concept which has real moral and metaphysical implications, while understanding that there is no evidence of material existence.

[–] s@piefed.world 6 points 4 days ago

It is not an act of faith to conclude that the requisite parameters for a claim are not met.

If a claim requires the laws of thermodynamics to be broken, then until an additional law is proven and replicated as an exception to the existing laws, then I would conclude that the aforementioned claim is false.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Incorrect. Theism is the belief. The "a" in front creates a counter, the opposite.

It's a complete lack of faith or belief.

Atheism is the default state.

Do you not believe in the Easter bunny? Because there has to be an Easter bunny for you to believe in.

See how unsound that argument is?

Having faith without proof is the nuance. Atheism is everyone's default state until they're indoctrinated by a religion or belief system.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

This is hilarious, thanks

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[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Yay!!! Santa!!!

[–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Jfc the man played Santa Claus. He's all about the fictional characters. Why would anyone with more than 2 brain cells give him an ounce of credibility?

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