Pure cli or also TUI? When it comes to TUI probably yazi is my most used tool right now, use it pretty much every day. For pure cli i would probably give my vote to sed. I use the crap out of it in a bunch of scripts. For example i switch my themes with it by replacing whatever import i had in the config to the desired theme, then reload the programs.
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I always thought openSUSE's package manager zypper has quite a few neat ideas:
- It offers two-letter shorthands for subcommands, so
zypper install→zypper in,update→up,remove→rm. - When it lists what packages it will install or remove, it will list them with the first letter highlighted in a different color, kind of like so:
fishgittexlive
This makes it really easy to visually scan the package list, and since it's sorted alphabetically, it also makes it easier to find a particular package you might be looking for.
And while there's separate lists for packages to be added vs. updated vs. removed, they also color those letters in green vs. yellow vs. red, so you can immediately see what's what. - When it lists items (other than packages), it prints an ID number, too.
So,zypper reposgives you a list of your repositories, numberered 1, 2, 3 etc., and then if you want to remove a repo, you can runzypper removerepo 3. - When you run a
zypper search, it prints the results in a nicely formatted table.
Documentation: https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/tumbleweed/zypper/
man

Ncmpcpp. I've been using it for so long that using other cli music players is almost a no go. Learning a new muscle memory wouldn't be worth it. Album art would be nice but I'm listening to music and staring at the album art for hours. The metadata editor is really nice. It's old reliable.
Not what you asked, but anything that uses a single hyphen for longopts can just fuck off. I'm talking to you Terraform.
You think that's bad. You should try Ghostty and it's +foo options.
Did not want to respond but this is hilarious.
To be fair, really old CLI's, like from the time when X.org was the new stuff, this style used to be more common. That was before "GNU style" (using single dash for single-letter bundle-able options and double dash for long options) became prevalent.
But yeah, if you see -foo then you know the program is old enough that regular colonoscopy is recommended, and the original author is probably retired or "passed away at the ripe age of ..".
I hate that too. 7z does that and its horrible.
So does Fossil. I love the program, but that irks me to no end.
Honestly, incus.
I know it's not strictly a utility, but holy cow, Stephane Graber and his team have put the work into that product, such that anything you can do in the ui can be done in the CLI, and more.
Tab completion entries for all the resource types (storage, instances, image repos, etc), help entries for everything, it brings a tear to the eye.
I once thought it was cool to have standardised man entries, but even better is context-sensitive --help entries that work well. Almost all the discovery I've made using incus, I've made using the commands themselves.
It's a real testament to how putting in the documentation work might be tedious, but it is a boon to both users and devs.
A well-designed CLI? Maybe sed.
A badly designed CLI? Probably also sed.
sed is great. I use it all the time, and I love it, but sometimes, I hate it.
sed -i 's/༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ/¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯/g'
Hahahaha. Best comment.
No-one mentioned 'jq' yet.
Maybe there's a reason for that!
I think git is the obvious choice, both in ergonomics and flexibility (custom commands). But maybe I'm just using it so much I don't recognize the sharp edges as much anymore.
But maybe I’m just using it so much I don’t recognize the sharp edges as much anymore.
Nah. I used to think that GUI git clients were The Way. But they all fall short, especially when the ***slightest ***thing goes sideways. Once you get your head around the paradigm, the git CLI is how you get real shit done and quickly. If anything, the GUI clients are all sharp edges and half-measures; the only reason I pull out a GUI client is to get a visual on all the branches in progress/already merged.
nmon
That, along with tmux and htop, are installed on everything I have.
nmon then ld- give me a system health page that shows me where the bottleneck is.
It's interesting to see how a system behaves when you're doing something like a backup... it's not always what you think.
I like CLI tools that everything I need can be found in a short command --help call, if I don't need to use man command it's even better.
I've used poor CLI tools for example adb you type this and you get almost a scientific article with more than 100 flags to use. No I don't want to need to use grep.
A good one would be pacman it separates clearly what it does instead of shoving it all in a single command.
Personally I dislike pacman as it uses capital-letter flags as subcommands while I'm used to actual subcommands
Pacman flags not being idempotent (-SS, yy, uu and such existing) is so unbelievably horrible that I can't use arch just because of it.
I've never used Arch, can you explain how it behaves?
The flag -y refreshes the package list (like apt update). For some reason, you use the flag -yy to force it to clear the whole package list and redownload everything.
To allow package downgrades when upgrading you use -uu.
These are very commonly suggested fixes to arch package management problems, for example when you leave your arch install to suit for too long, it will be impossible to update it because of dependency problems. So you google it and people are saying to run "pacman -SSyyuu" or other such commands.
Those additional options should be their own flags, command line flags should be idempotent (it should flip a switch on, doing it multiple times shouldn't change anything).
Okay yeah that's terrible
find and rename/perl-rename/prename (depending on your distro), are two of my favorite cli tools. I generally find both well designed and easy to use. For me, they are indispensable.
I think find UI is so bad every time I use it I think about hacking a script just to make it simpler for my use case. At the same time I am very reluctant to use one of this new versions of standard commands trying to reinvent the wheel.
Some things I don't link about find:
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How the directory needs to be the first argument. I get the reasoning but it is such a pain, specially if you are using it with the same query repeatedly in different paths.
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The parenthesis to set order of matches, you are doing it in the shell so you have to escape them which is never fun.
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The fact that
-namedoes not match partial names and there is not a version that do so you have to keep doing stuff like-name "*foo*"and of course you have to escape that shit or risk you shell expanding it. Having the GLOB version is nice but there could have a more ergonomic way to do this type, which I assume is a very common use case. -
Actually, doing more complex logical matches is always a pain and it would be nice to have a easier way to do some common operations.
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The fact that when you do some complex match then the
-printis not automatic anymore or the the behaviour is kinda weird. And is a pain to add it in all logical branches or do it in a way that you do not repeat a lot.
Anyway, sorry for the rant.
Hahaha. No apology needed. And honestly, all fair points.
My RSS shell script that simply dumps the XML's content nicely formatted on stdout. Seriously, why do have all of them to impose some opinionated TUI on me? Terminals can do bold, dim and underline, that's enough.
Sorry no, not public. It's faulty and ugly and is missing features (multiple sources for one) and i want to rewrite it in python since at least 2 years.
does ncurses stuff count or is TUI cheating?
i’ve been a big fan of Jujutsu (jj) since adopting it a few weeks ago. things i used to avoid with git like proper rebasing and focused commits become so much easier, in addition to the benefits of conflicts being easier to handle. the learning curve i thought was going to be grueling only took a couple days to get used to, and honestly interop with GitHub and my team’s particular workflow were the hard parts. so not only is it useful, powerful, and becoming more important to my workflow all the time, it’s a joy to use compared to git.
i guess honorable mention to zoxide, which has basically replaced cd for me since it does everything cd does but also keeps a small db of your most commonly visited directories so you can just do z Downloads or z my_project or whatever from any directory
I think it depends a lot on what kind of application you’re thinking of. Here are some examples of tools that I particularly remember for having nice CLI interfaces, but they are all slightly different in terms of the number of operations/entities they support.
Single operation, a lot of different types of data: httpie
httpie is a CLI HTTP client. It allows to generate fairly complex requests, choose which diagnostic information you want to see, etc.
Examples:
$ https httpie.io/hello
$ http PUT pie.dev/put X-API-Token:123 name=John
$ http -v pie.dev/get
Several operations, a lot of parameters: Bazel
Bazel is a build system. There are only a handful of operations you typically perform (build, run, test, query), but they all follow the same pattern.
Examples:
$ bazel build //app
$ bazel --quiet build //app -c opt
$ bazel --quiet run //app -c opt -- --port=1234
Multiple entites, multiple operations: LVM
I really liked the interface of Linux Volume Manager tools. They consist of multiple commands that follow the same pattern, and use the same flags for options.
Examples:
# vgcreate -n vg_name
# vgs
# pvcreate /dev/sda
# vgextend vg_name /dev/sda
# lvcreate vg_name -n lv_name -L5G
# lvresize vg_name/lv_name -L+1G
# lvs
LVM is in your favorites? It's essential command(s) for sure but every time I use it it's trial and error because I didn't use the correct flag case and/or argument order
There are many modern alternatives to common Unix commands, often written in rust, or provided in Nushell, that showcase that. Here are some common themes I like:
Good defaults:
You shouldn't have to memorize tar -xzvf just to extract a tar file; The thing you're most likely to want to do should be the default. But other use cases should still be achievable through the use of flags. Make simple thing easy and difficult things possible.
Subcommands: It helps separate and discover the different functions of a CLI. Paired with a help subcommand, you can quickly look up information for the subcommand you're actually interested in.
Domain specific languages:
Many problems already have a solution in the form of a DSL, such as Regex or SQL. My favourite example for this is httpie, which lets you specify the type, body and parameters of an HTTP request without touching any flags.
I also much prefer long flags over short ones, because they are self-documenting.
Anything to replace firewall-cmd? (I know about ufw but it just feels too simple for my use case).
firewall-cmd commands are all fucked up and it feels like they use different verbs for very similar actions. Plus - - help is a few miles long which is not helpful. I just wish that it would have subcommands. Something like firewall-cmd zone public info
Does no one read man pages anymore? This is not a personal attack but I am baffled people don't set up bash completion correctly and then can't "discover flags" (or just read the manual).
I would not want tar that automatically "does what it thinks I want" useful… am l out of touch or the kids being wrong
I actually like tar. Yes, it could have a default, but its also from another time. And remembering Xtract Zip File is not that hard. (v is for verbose for those wondering)
extract () {
if [ $# -ne 1 ]
then
echo "Error: No file specified."
return 1
fi
if [ -f "$1" ] ; then
case "$1" in
*.tar.bz2) tar xvjf "$1" ;;
*.tar.gz) tar xvzf "$1" ;;
*.tar.xz) tar xvf "$1" ;;
*.tar.zst) tar axvf "$1" ;;
*.xz) xz -kd "$1" ;;
*.bz2) bunzip2 "$1" ;;
*.gz) gunzip "$1" ;;
*.tar) tar xvf "$1" ;;
*.tbz2) tar xvjf "$1" ;;
*.tgz) tar xvzf "$1" ;;
*.lzma) unlzma "$1" ;;
*.rar) unrar x "$1" ;;
*.zip) unzip "$1" ;;
*.Z) uncompress "$1" ;;
*.7z) 7z x "$1" ;;
*.exe) cabextract "$1" ;;
*.deb) ar x "$1" ;;
*.jar) jar xf "$1" ;;
*) echo "'$1' cannot be extracted via extract" ;;
esac
else
echo "'$1' is not a valid file"
fi
}
I find fd to have a really nice API.
uuuuh just bash with some simple bashrc and inputrc settings
I don't think there is some exceptional good CLI interfaces. If anything, you either notice the interface is bad or unconventional or it is cluttered, because it has lots of functionality. It also depends if it "should" fit into the Linux eco system (similar commandline system and logic) or is this tool used for any operating system. I have my own scripts as wrapper for some tools, so they are excluded from discussions here. Note I think the discussion is about commandline interfaces that operate non interactive (in other words no "live" TUIs or interactive editors), so no Vim or htop.
Tools like yt-dlp or awk or find or git are complex and overloaded with functionality, because it offers so much and has to offer all of that. Or the command works different, because of its nature of calling another command like parallel. Then there are commandlines that just deviates from the standard and bugs me a lot. One of the worst offenders to me is 7z from package extra/7zip in the Arch repositories. But it is not a standard GNU tool, therefore it does its own thing.
So in the end, I do not think there is an exceptional good CLI, only bad or complicated ones. As long as it follows Linux standards its good to go. Often the best Rust CLI tools have pretty good ones that could be listened as standouts, but none specific in particular.