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This is my third time to the office. Im waiting for the Doctor to come in and whie waiting in the examination room, I spot this. I start flipping through it, and I am getting upset.

I wait for the doctor to come in. I immeditely ask him, hey what it this? why is it here? He blew me off and just said "oh its just an opinion piece" and I said, yeah, but who put it here, do you believe in this? And he just shrugged. I said, Im leaving, that is so wierd, thats weird to have in a doctors office. And I left. Ill never go back to that place.

I need a doctor who believes in science. You wanna be christain thats fine, but this literally says,for christain nationalism. gross.

Putnam CT, USA if anyone is curious. I want to post the photo in google maps reviews, but I am afraid to, even with my google account being a burner. Yes, it's the red pocket of an overall blue state, but, I just, was not expecting to see this.

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[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

When I briefly had Obamacare, I went to the only dr that accepted it in my area. Was a straight fever dream. There was a massive koi pond built into the floor of the place with little bridges crossing it connecting the offices. There was a room where the owner had a massive model ship collection. And All over the walls were signs saying how evolution is a lie. I never returned and canceled my Obamacare. It was so fucking weird.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 4 hours ago

This has serious Obvious Plant vibes.

I hate the break it do y'all but doctors and specialists are some of the most ignorant motherfuckers you'll ever meet, outside their field that is. Same goes for nurses...

Doesn't mean they ain't nice people that id trust my life to, I just wouldn't listen to them for anything outside of the field they are in.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, you are GURANTEED not to get the best quality care at a doctor that believes in Christian Nationalism. It's not the 50's anymore, but they are trying to bring us back.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Christian nationalism did not exist in this sense in the 1950s. What we are calling Christian nationalism is toolism of big business and they're Unholy alliance with the religious right. The evangelicals, the baptists, the calvinists, they were never political before like the '70s to '80s I forget something about Newt Gingrich and a bunch of assholes.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Doesn't mean its his. God bothers often leave their trash laying around hoping someone will read it.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I asked, and it is a thick almost book like, $7 mag, found in the examination room, not the waiting room, not a pamphlet. It was along side another less obvious christain mag.

When asked, the Doctor did not deny it belonging to the office.

edit to add, I was in the "car visit" room. I think a less used room, as it was full of personal items like photographs and art.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Okay it was what I thought of first. The local library picks up a couple of way out there magazines on the shelf regularly. Several religious magazines and one is some pro china rag that makes china seem like a glowing beacon of decency. Someone is bringing them in and putting them on the shelf. The library throws them away every month.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago

He didn't deny it though.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

You should report this to the state medical board. They take such reports seriously.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Not to be a downer, but I seriously doubt anything would come of a report. The provider could have bibles in every room in the practice, with weeping jesus hanging on every wall, and still not violate any rules. Providers can now refuse to treat based on their moral grounds (read - pharmacists not filling scripts for the morning after pill, birth control, etc and more.)

As utterly disgusting as this is, it's not illegal.

Edit to add - what's even more surprising is that someone paid $6.95 for that rag

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

This is the kind of info I was hoping to get. Ill look into it. I still dont feel good and need to find a new doctor now too. :(

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"It's just an opinion piece."

Sure, bud. The magazine exists to advocate theocracy.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

On the cover:

R R Reno, right wing theologian and editor of the rag.

Matthew B Crawford, can’t find much about him other than he’s at UVA’s center for advanced studies. Looks like his writing was chosen for the rag rather than written for it.

Glenn C Arbery, former president and current professor at Wyoming Catholic College, the college is labeled “conservative” by some sources.

Christian Smith, theistic author and professor at Notre Dame.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

In my experience, doctors for me have been either blue hair free healthcare for all progressives or George Bush republicans with no in between.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

“George Bush Republican” and “Christian Nationalist” are two entirely different camps in my head.

And in my experience. I have family distinctively, unquestionably in each camp and not the other.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I’ve never seen a Christian nationalist doctor is what I’m also saying. It’s kinda wild that they wouldn’t have issues with their license; having anything like OP’s image in a waiting room is a huge professional liability.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah.

having anything like OP’s image in a waiting room is a huge professional liability.

Is it, though? I'm not familiar with medical licensing, but technically how would it impact their ability to practice medicine?

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A patient can build a case against them based on discrimination. If the doctor buys that magazine, that’ll come out in court, and even if the lawsuit doesn’t stick, it’s a waste of money. With that kind of thing hanging around, they’re basically asking to be sued.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Ah, I see.

...Yes, I can vividly imagine that being used in court.

I think that says a lot; that a practicing doctor would have this and not even see it as discriminatory. It's been normalized that much, apparently.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There's a disturbing amount of full on MAGA doctors who'd be flattered to be accused of being a Nazi in LA. The funny thing is they're not even white.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

LA has a bigger population than a majority of whole states. Even 0.5% of their population is a significant number of people 🫣

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Truth. It's a region the size of Belgium with the population of Mongolia. That's a god damn megalopolis, if not a nation-state on its own.

[–] spiffaronic@lemmy.today 12 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I worked with physicians on an almost daily basis during my hospital IT career. Believe me when I say this is NOT an unusual thing. Some of the most whacked out RWNJs I've known were MDs. It should scare you shitless.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

People should be skeptical about professionals that we consider to be of higher character and intelligence. Plenty of them have f’d up ideas and objectively unscientific views. Doctors, lawyers, commercial pilots, engineers, higher ranked military officers… people you’d assume hold themselves to higher standards.

They’re just people. As long as they’re not nuts and pass the right tests, a flat earther can become an engineer, anti-vaxxers become doctors, right-wing nutters everywhere.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Case and Point: Ben Carson.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It's a bit unfourtunate that I think in my search for a new doctor.. I will have to ask their belief. Im going to search for an atheist doctor..

I do believe this was the typical exam room for my lady doctor. Her family is from India, and I dont care that there were her family memeber photos on the wall, and Indian art on the walls, I didnt care she had a cross on her neck. I though it unique or maybe she was trying to fit in with the demographic, or whatever, but this is a hard line to cross.

The male doctor I was seeing on the off sick visit.. coward at my questions, and this doesnt help the situation, nor my confusion. Who's was it? he didnt answer. so, I dont really know.

It does scare me shitless, and I want an atheist doctor now, full stop

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Ahh that's unsettling i would have done the same

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I have no idea what any of these points mean. Done with Notre dame? What the fuck is this asshole talking about? Who the fuck is Notre dame? Love and mass migration I don't even know where he's going with that, Mass migration is literally the bread and butter of Christian nationalism, opposing it. Nonsense.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I parse the "Love and Mass Migration" thing pretty easily. A common (and reasonable) rebuttal to these types is to ask, "well how can you love your neighbor as a Christian, when you support the violent deportation of your migrant neighbors?"

I garuntee that article is twisting the concept of Christian love to day that, actually, deportations are loving actually, or somesuch horseshit.

I have Nooo clue about the Notre Dame one. Though I am morbidly curious

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

*guarantee. No shade, it's a common mistake, I just like being helpful.

As far as the Notre Dame thing? I have no idea. Maybe it's referencing the fire at the Notre Dame back in 2019? A lot of Protestants were basically masturbating over it because they thought it was a sign that God didn't like Catholics.

Edit: Later comment clarified that the author of the article was a prof at Notre Dame. So I'm pretty sure this rag is at the very least Catholic-adjacent.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Catholics and christians are cut from the same cloth. This magazing advocates for theocracy. They dislike the pope, and want prayer in schools ect..

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 hour ago

Catholics are Christians.

[–] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Can you imagine being so far right-wing that you think Notre Dame isn't conservative enough?

Bill Clinton used to campaign on hiring 100,000 new teachers. Maybe we need a 2028 candidate running on hiring 100,000 new therapists.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Many "advertise" their faith discretely, look for crosses or a tiny Jesus fish on their signage, business cards, building, etc.

[–] spiffaronic@lemmy.today 9 points 10 hours ago

I'm always grateful whenever a business puts a Jebus fish on their signs and in their ads so I don't have to waste time doing business with them. It only took a couple of times letting outspoken Xtians work on my stuff before I realized it was all a ruse to get gullible idiots into their stores to be f'd over.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly? Take it with you. Stop the spread.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You know I agree with you in spirit,

however, If I hadnt seen that, I wouldnt have known, and still would be going there.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

Fair enough. Just the other day I was off the same mind as you, relieved that the Tesla Cybertruck owners in my area were plastering themselves with a giant sign of their assholery.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Guaranteed the quack doctor believes in the fucknuts Doug Wilson and RFK Jr.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

I fully support stupid business owners wearing their shitty politics on their sleeve. Cuts their business in half and virtually ensures they'll fail.

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