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[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you spot an A380 at low altitudes (starting or landing) it looks like a flying building.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 3 weeks ago

It flies through the air in a way that bricks don't.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I might even go so far as to define it as such.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Trex202@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

It holds 380 vs 747, duh

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Short route, japanese spec 747s could seat 624. Similarly specified A380 would probably seat well over 1000.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've flown on the A380 several times and it is a very comfortable flight. Especially noise levels, which are much less than smaller passenger planes.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I've flown on it as well, and the quietness is really remarkable.

While all other passenger planes are smaller than the A380, it's also far quieter than other very large passenger planes like the 747 and 777. Other modern designs making significant use of composites like the A350 and 787 are also not nearly so quiet.

[–] ConstructiveVandalism@piefed.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] EffortlessGrace@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Like a frightened turtle...

[–] zorro@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Crazy that the 747 was released in the 70s I my mind it's still what I picture as a commercial airliner.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm glad they made them wider instead of like , longer to fit more people lol

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Taller, too. The A380 has an upper passenger deck for the full length of the aircraft, not just the 747’s hump up front. The length was constrained by existing airport gates. If it was longer, it would have hung out into the taxiways. (The wider wingspan and wheel base are still an issues, though.)

[–] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Does this continue to work at scale? Making everything proportional and such... I would guess they had to significantly increase the jet propulsion to compensate.

[–] 42beansinapod@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Since no one actually answered your question: basically yes, you can just scale airplanes linearely up and down. Obviously everything has to scale, like propultion and hydrolics power, but you can esentially make a model aircraft the exact same shape as any large aircraft and it will fly. Conversly, you can test a small model in a wind tunnel and then scale it up as much as you want and it behaves mostly the same way.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_number

Not technically true, but I think when you are scaling up from an A380, it becomes much less relevant.

I would assume at some point you would have to worry about structural materials being able to hold up to weight being thrown around. It is remarkable how much wings can bend, but I figure at some point joints would need some kind of alternative.

The planes pictured are designed to have ~25ft (8 meters) of bend in the wings.

[–] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Soup@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Nothing in the world really works at infinite scale because the size of atoms doesn’t change. In order for something to scale infinitely it also needs the environment in which it’s found to scale along with it.

Fun fact, the reason bees can fly is because, at their scale, the air is so thick that they’re actually doing something closer to swimming through it. A plane 6x as big would be, conversely, flying through incredibly thin air from its perspective.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This comment doesn't actually answer OP's aeronautics engineering question at scales of human life and plane manufacturing.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who’s talking about scales of human life? He wanted to know if one could just keep scaling planes and what that would require, and since no else had said anything I gave what answer I could which did contain some helpful information on that subject.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, he didn't. Nobody is talking about scaling airplanes down to atomic or up to galactic scales. There's an actual answer to OP's question, which an aeronautical engineer could factually answer. You gave a worthless, 'I am very smart' non-answer and now double down as if OP was asking about some platonic ideal rather than a genuine engineering question.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Damn, somebody’s having a shit day, huh? You know this kind of negativity isn’t good for you, right?

[–] Jerkingass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Look at the size difference between the engines.

The A380's are enormous.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

They're only about 10-15% more powerful. The 777 has far larger and more powerful engines, but only two of them.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago