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This thought came to me in the shower today. Open source checks most of the boxes. It is a collaborative, worker owned (develloper-owned) project, that tries to flatten hierarchy. Especially if you look at something like Debian ), which really tries to have a bottom-up structure.
Of course, there are exceptions, considering there are a lot of corporate open-source projects, that are not democratically maintained and clearly only serve the interest of the company, who created it (like chromium for example).
So I am mainly talking about community-oriented FOSS projects here.
And if you were to agree with my statement, would you say that developing FOSS software is advancing the goals of the anarchist / communist project, because it is laying the groundwork infrastructure needed for a new kind of economy and society?
Thought this could be an interesting discussion!

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[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 hours ago

tl;dr : No, FOSS project are used by military and fascists

long: It's link to a common misunderstanding of "mean of production". FOSS developers do not own the mean of production. Mean of production is not just the tool to produce goods and services, but all the industry needed to make them available : promotion, distribution, ... Socialization (for anarchists) or collectivization (for comies) of industries mean that workers own and manage (or self-organized) every establishment needed for this and organize together to get their power back. In this case, we could abolish some industries, change them, or choose where to send the production or not. This is the same for cooperatives and self-managed places; it's may be some interesting experience or complementary with class struggle, but is not a revolutionary move in itself

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly, yes, I think it's one of the best examples of anarchism in action the world has ever seen. And an especially pertinent example to point out to those who'd say things like, "Why would anyone do work or innovate without a profit motive?" Lots of good and innovative software, made without any profit incentive by a collective of people who are working on it just because they want to and they enjoy it.

[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I spent hours every day either taking pictures of organisms or identifying them online, just for the sake of it and without financial reimbursement. People who say you need a profit motive to do work are just passionless and detached from the world...

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago

People who say you need a profit motive to do work are just passionless and detached from the world…

You might even say they're feeling alienated, as a certain German economist might say.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile we have many capitalist groups stifling innovation in the name of profit. It's more profitable for them to prevent competition than to compete for the best product.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, as an anarchist I regularly point to FOSS as a plausible example of it working

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

likewise as a socialist. it's a good example the profit motive rule is bullshit.

[–] its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

I'm going with communalism. And its even simpler. A group of like minded people wanting to be creative nd share creativity without monetization. Seems more akin to artist movements to me. And I'm all for it.

[–] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 5 points 1 day ago

I often think of community run open source free license software projects as an example of communalism, personally. Maybe when I learn about more forms of anarchism and socialism there will be other ideas that feel more apt to describe it

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

BoringCactus wrote a tentative post-mortem to "open source"/free software (five-and-a-half years ago already?!) that I find/found interesting and somewhat relevant to your question.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That was indeed a really interesting read! It really made me think more deeply about software licencing. I didn't quite understand what the authors problem with GPLv3 was though? That the companies are scared of it? Isn't that kind of a good thing? I don't want amazon to make massive profits off of my work, because if that's possible to do, then that would necessarily mean, that my goal as a developer (to protect my work from exploitation while helping the common good) isn't working. I am curious what you have taken away from the essay though? How do you protect your code from corporate exploitation?

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The author of that piece would say you protect your code by not open sourcing it. It's an incredibly frustrating piece to me, because it presents hampering corporations as more important than not screwing over individual FOSS users.

The reason they blame GPLv3 is because they claim the open sourcing requirements within it are so onerous that corporations just avoid it, making it so that rather than corporations contributing to that software, they often end up supplanting it with their own versions that have alternate licensing, which then not only denies the original author any benefit, but even makes the corporation 'look good' to people who don't realize or care what happened.

It's so frustrating to me because they're doing this whole "pragmatism over idealism" claim, while also not acknowledging that FOSS as a movement is the only reason any corporation open sources anything now. They certainly didn't used to. But the author seemingly would rather people not have any tools made with or by companies, who are benefiting from them financially, than have both corporations and individual users benefit from them. That's ideology over pragmatism as well.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Fuck yea! I'm not those dumb tear down the government people, I'm the make it redundant pragmatic people. I will go as close to my ideal state as possible.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cory Doctorow has a novel "Walkaway" which is basically "what if society but FOSS". It's really good!

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wow, I didn't think, I would get such an interesting book recommendation out of this. Thank you so much!

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago

My pleasure! It kind of reminds me of Snow Crash in that it's really fun and adventurous but also made me think deep thoughts.

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[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

It's a great book, and very relevant.

Open source is not literally communism, but I do think it's one of the best examples to demonstrate that anarcho-communism is plausible.

[–] Cekan14@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago

Yep, and that's why I use it.

[–] for_some_delta@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I consider FOSS a step toward prefiguring an anarchy.

Current source control management systems however perpetuate heirarchies with roles such as maintainer and developer with different permissions. I like to keep the permissions similar for roles. I might take away foot guns like force push from developers.

Another problem limiting anarchy is consensus. Getting agreement from everyone effected is still not quite there in the merge request process.

But you can fork it and make your own thing. Standard hierarchy has much more power over resources. Git's hierarchy is almost simbolic.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only if you use GPL, not MIT.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think MIT is anarchistic license. You can do whatever the fuck you want with it, but for this shit to work for both of us, you really should collaborate

Further, GPL relies on enforcement from an authority on copyrights, which is exactly the opposite of what anarchists suggest

[–] rimu@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

Yes although what tends to happen is the capitalists just take MIT licenced code and make bank off it.

This is all moot now that LLMs can launder the code anyway.

[–] matsdis@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You obviously want WTFPL instead of MIT for that.

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It can definitely be a form of praxis.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry for being a bit of an idiot, but what is praxis?

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The textbook definition would be the application of theory to action. It's basically leftist slang for putting the theories of socialism/communism/humanism into practice in a real way.

Alright, thanks ;)

[–] MerryJaneDoe@beehaw.org 4 points 1 day ago

Not really.

I compare it more to fan fiction and amateur writing. Some is a great read, much better than the garbage you might find on NYT's best seller list. Very talented people doing what they love and trying to be of service to others along the way. FOSS often seems more of a passion project for the creator(s) than an anarchist/communist project, IMHO - although there are obvious parallels.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think FOSS enable those kind of communities but I don’t think FOSS as a concept is any of those things. those communities could equally work with a non FOSS license (eg one that prevents commercial use or a license that allow usage only by members of a specific community). They uses existing licenses because they go momentum and have legal precedents that allows people to defend their rights.

Most FOSS licenses were specifically designed to allow profiting from the wok of others, even the GPL. Just see how many billion dollar companies (think Azure, AWS, etc) profit from projects without giving anything back.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While not explicitly so, FOSS as a concept aligns very closely with far left anti-capitalist principles. The existence of corporate and right-winger-owned FOSS projects is a bit of an oxymoron, but doesn't discredit the fact that it's inherently a far left concept.

[–] ati@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

It's an observation of Marx, I think correct, that society organises in a manner aligned around the means of production. Agrarian -> feudal, industrial -> capitalist etc. I think the essential distinguishing feature of software vs capital goods is that software can be copied without the loss of the original. Hence I think the concept of ownership fails and the mode of production becomes anarchist.

[–] monad@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not Communism in a political sense. More like community based, friendly software.

Open Source as in transparent or non proprietary.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's a non-market way of doing things, so sure it fits the definition, but labels are dumb, and the people who really like labels are worse.

You'll also notice that you still have to pay for whatever device Linux goes on, which is a strong hint about the economics at play.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I agree about the labels. The worst part of communism is the people who like communism. I am a simple man, I just want to be technically a communist without liking it or even being remotely interested in it, thankyouverymuch. Open source is great for that.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 day ago

I was introduced to communism/socialism through Linux.

[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

I'm definitively printing this and putting it on my wall

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] Ice@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do not.

FOSS is the natural conclusion of public code having a negligible cost to supply once it has been produced. Ideally it takes IP out of the equation and allocates compensation towards development rather than rent extraction.

FOSS is a question of centralization & authority vs decentralization & freedom.

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