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edit Shame on the entire Lemmy World mod team for locking this thread, you are participating in an evil you don't want to mess with that will consume you. Children are dying as we speak and you have all atrociously failed your duty to ethically moderate and steward a community. You hurt this place.

This is a serious problem for y'all, I know you removed him as a site wide moderator, but it is simply not enough. You are endorsing someone who has a CLEAR pattern of silencing discussion about a particular group of people and if that doesn't alarm you, you need to wake up and pay attention.

Looking back there is a repeated pattern of removing, silencing and acting derisively towards discussion about Palestine and the Palestinian Genocide from Jordan Lund both from my interactions with him and also from others I have found easily from searching.

Deal with this problem.

See this post

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42491951

..and this post.

https://sopuli.xyz/post/42630105

Edit shame on the Lemmy World team for ignoring this post or trying to find lazy ways to dismiss it.

This should serve as a warning to all, do not depend on Lemmy World communities, diversify to different servers as there is a serious distortion of reality going on here about what is allowed to be talked about and what is not. The consequences are real and we could not be discussing a more serious subject of censorship than the Palestinian Genocide and the politics around it.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

@lwadmin@lemmy.world hey Jordan is attacking user on other servers and breaking tos in multiple ways. Going to do anything about it this time?

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65405478

Just gonna add him being as ass as I see them here

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Watch, they won't. They'll say they'll discuss it with him and do nothing. Their trolls (Jordan, PJ, Rheori, many more) are good, calling them out is evil.

Edit: weird how they just give us proof, isn't it? Do they search for usernames being mentioned? Is it a bot script for .world that if you talk about their active users they get pinged?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

So strange that a brand new account I’ve never interacted with suddenly called me out for no reason.

If only that MonkeyNuts or HatorAids or Eugene Debbie (or whatever they’re calling themselves now) was still around. I’d bet they would have an opinion on this.

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And now the top .world defenders have logged on and said we're illegitimate for asking rules to be followed. Lord.

Might as well have no rules if anytime you disagree with a mod breaking them, trolls come from the wood working.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And have goat calling it botted

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Please defend against his bullshit, I have my work to do today unlike him. He intentionally didn't respond to any of the users who actually can debunk his shit.

Amazing how you can call our trolls and they join the thread. Goat and Rhoeri, speak the devil's name and the devil appears.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

Eugene, you've mentioned either of us every single day for the past few weeks. At this point, what you're doing is just not healthy. Why are you so obsessed? What do you want exactly?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

So, MonkeyNuts, I’ve made the admins aware of your little alt you’ve rolled up here, so keep your nose clean.

😂

They take ban evasion pretty seriously if you remember.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They also hold the opinion that the only valid news sources are corporate and billionaire-owned news sources. They are a danger to the fediverse.

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I think Jordan must have linked here, his devoted defenders are here now, with no evidence or intelligence from good faith from them.

[–] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Agreed. Worst of the worst mod for several reasons.

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

But Jordan's defenders have logged on here to say he's actually not thar bad!

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Make sure to link to the other thread where the admins said it would be addressed as it's obviously not

https://lemmy.world/post/36621226

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I think Jordan must have linked here, his devoted defenders are here now, with no evidence or intelligence from good faith from them.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The rules clearly state that that comm is for US politics only.

Saying that shit happening in Gaza is US politics because it’s US made weapons is flimsy at best. Jordan has spoken out on many occasions on the subject and probably agrees with you more than you’d care to admit on how things are being handled there.

He’s just upholding the rules of the comm.

As has been pointed out- You have no argument supporting your accusations here. Your links only verify that you did not follow the rules of that comm even after you were told what they were.

And before you go accusing me of bOoTliCkiNg rhetoric, go ahead and check my history and see that I’ve been moderated and banned from that sub several times.

Just follow the rules man. There like, 30 or so other places you could post those links. You’re just trolling the comm at this point repeatedly posting that.

(Disclaimer: I am fully aware that this is a nuanced take and this is lemmy. Therefore by default, I fully expect no one to even try to consider any of this)

Flame away!

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The rules clearly state that that comm is for US politics only.

My contention, which I have clearly delineated in my comments links and sources, is that you cannot state such a ridiculous policy and hope to apply it with any consistency, whether it be a problematic inconsistency such as around the Palestinian Genocide or more harmless species of inconsistency where the word "Blog" is enough to automatically bar an article from the community even when the contents of the website are clearly not a "Blog" in the way the rules intend to specify.

Jordan has spoken out on many occasions on the subject and probably agrees with you more than you’d care to admit.

No, Jordan's beliefs scare the shit out of me, they are set up in gleeful ignorance to turn around and blame Israel and jews for this massive mess we have gotten ourselves into, it is so clear how the story being set up intentionally, unintentionally or some mixture of the two is leading towards really scary anti-semitism as a replacement for more serious conversation about the direct complicity of the US along many different dimensions in the Palestinian Genocide. Jordan's beliefs lead straight into squeezing your eyes shut, putting your fingers in your ears and saying "na na na I can't hear you!" when the world tries to get you to reckon with the reality of the colonialism you are participating in, the reality that Israel is very much an echo of the US in some ways. Then after they go away, you open your eyes, see everything is on fire and then point at jews and say "What is happening!!!!!! They LIED to us! They backstabbed us! Our greatness was sabotaged!".

Jordan repeats that the Palestinian Genocide is awful but that the US didn't know and cannot be held responsible for what Israel is doing. Not only is it an amateur understanding of geopolitics to think the world works in such neat clean divisions, it is a dangerous fairy tale to believe in that disguises a more complex reality where we are far more complicit in the suffering around us than we want to admit.

Just follow the rules man.

Rules are not neutral, you cannot dismiss my criticism of them by just telling me to follow them.

There like, 30 or so other places you could post those links. You’re just trolling the comm at this point repeatedly posting that.

Please provide proof I am trolling, I post lots of links about a variety of topics. Only one very narrow category seems to get moderated by Jordan Lund and it worries me, it should worry you too.

[–] kuato@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The arguments from Lund’s defenders would make John Yoo proud. It’s weaponized feigned obtuseness, which I think is Lund’s M.O. as well.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You’re trolling because you were told the first time not to post those links in that comm and continued doing so.

All the rest is irrelevant. The rules are stated, and it’s been determined that your posts violate those rules. That’s it.

If you don’t like it, just don’t post there. As is usually advised in these situations- make your own comm and post whatever you want. But if you post in others, you are subject to their rules and their interpretation of their rules.

That’s how it is.

You’re free to block the comm, and in your case, i recommend you do as it seems its visiblility is enough to entice you to continue violating their rules.

But at the end of the day, he’s not breaking any rules. They are clearly stated. You’re just looking for trouble.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You have provided no proof I am trolling, please stop accusing me of it.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The rules of the comm are proof. Your screenshots are proof. At this point, you’re just trying to take the piss.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Rules are not neutral, you cannot dismiss my criticism of them because in your perception of things I did not follow the rules if my contention is correct since there is no way for you to be sure the fractured understanding you have of a moderation policy built on a logical fallacy is the same as mine.

The only way to be sure of that is to adhere to a moderation policy not built upon a logical fallacy so we know if we both agree on the same starting axioms that we can suss out a logical connection between our two points of view.

This really isn't even about me being right in my particular political arguments, there is a fundamental philosophical faceplant Jordan Lund is doing here about the basic mechanisms of geopolitics that transcends the specifics of any of my particular arguments.

Unfortunately the consequences are not abstract, we are talking about discussion around a Genocide.

Sometimes called the “either-or” fallacy, a false dilemma is a logical fallacy that presents only two options or sides to an issue when there are actually more complexities. Essentially, a false dilemma presents a “black and white” kind of thinking when there are many shades of gray.

The simplest form of a false dilemma would be a question like: “do you want ketchup or mustard on your hot dog?” Why not both? Or neither? Or maybe a salad? We probably encounter these harmless false dilemmas often in everyday life. Sometimes, simplifying the number of choices available can even be a useful way to reach a consensus.

However, false dilemmas can become harmful when they’re used to purposely exclude options in order to distort an argument. False dilemmas can also be used to imply that two contrasting positions are actually contradictory. We’ll see an example of that in our comic below:

^insert "US Politics" and "US Vassal State Politics" in for "ketchup and mustard"

https://owl.excelsior.edu/argument-and-critical-thinking/logical-fallacies/logical-fallacies-false-dilemma/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vassal_state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzerainty

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

JFC dude… read the rules of the page in the sidebar. You’re trying to sound intellectual, but all you’re doing is just trying to justify trolling.

I’m not arguing this with you. You are in the wrong despite your inability to accept it.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m not arguing this with you. You are in the wrong despite your inability to accept it.

Thank you for publicly stating your conscious dereliction of responsibility to engage in good faith here.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago

You got “dereliction of responsibility to engage in good faith” from my stating that I’m not going to argue with you if you’re going to refuse to even try to see that you are in the wrong?

LMAO!

Your $5 words are worthless when they have no merit behind their meaning. I look forward to seeing nothing being done about this.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

hello completely organic thread with completely legitimate users who are definitely not alts

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The complete irony of you making the claim.

completely organic thread

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because you're used to making inorganic threads? 🤔

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

because you guys lack subtlety

[–] lmmarsano@group.lt 2 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Per site bylaws on community mod removal, can you provide an argument for this case addressing the relevant rules directly?

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