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Please provide more detail than "Trump is a twat" and "epstein distraction" cos that's fucking obvious

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[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago

Broadly speaking, the US is okay with invading Iran because Iran isn't a US tributary and the Iranian state is unwilling to become a tributary because theocracy is incompatible with US tributary status (A king might swear fealty to an emperor, but god's emissary can hardly submit to a heathen).

The primary objective of the US administration is to win the midterm elections. War has historically boosted Republican support under low-informations voters and centrists, and going by the standing ovation in Congress, Democrats are happy to go along with the narrative that this is a just war because they too support enforcing tributary status.

That takes care of the motive. The means is the US military-industrial complex. The opportunity comes in the form of the US breaking a nuclear non-proliferation treaty with Iran and then being outraged that Iran isn't complying.

They could count on Iran not complying because Israel keeps attacking Iran (and its other neighbors), ensuring Iran will defend itself in a way that can be treated as offensive. Israel keeps attacking its neighbors because that is what the US pays them for and because their history of doing that means that if the US cut funding for unrendered services, many Israelis would have to flee to escape facing justice for their participation in genocide.

So that's means, motive, and opportunity for the US attacking Iran. Now how will it go?

Firstly, the motive being elections means the US will keep the war going until at least after the midterms. Economic consequences of this can be spun as justifying Republican autarky. The biggest consequence would be oil shortages in most of the world. Countries with large domestic production and/or strategic reserves, including the US, Canada, China, Russia, and Venezuela, would be less affected or have their position strengthened (with Venezuela going along with the US because they now know what happens if they don't).

In Iran, the US will keep bombing targets until it is satisfied ground resistance is sufficiently mollified, then move troops in to occupy. Given Iran's geography and the theocratic nature of the current regime, it will likely be a phase of shattering state power followed by a phase of occupation and guerilla warfare.

The US will attempt to create safe zones from which the tributary government and military loyal to the US operate and grow in power, likely centered around urban areas, key infrastructure, and strategic resources. Given there is more support for regime change in Iran than in Afghanistan, the tributary government might attract enough loyal troops to slowly take over the fight against the loyalist guerillas and not collapse immediately when US support drops.

This invasion has bipartisan support so even the Trump administration being replaced would not stop it. I don't know how long the Iranian state can resist, but as long as it does the blockade on the Strait of Hormuz will remain in place, and even after that guerillas will make that route unsafe. After that, getting the tributary government shipshape could take years or decades, on the long end probably getting cut off like Afghanistan.

Iran or its supporters may attempt asymmetric warfare. If the US government wants to, it could replicate 9/11 and its massive boost for Republican popularity by having a similar lack of curiosity about suspected upcoming attacks. There have been articles about a possible Iranian drone attack from a ship off the coast of California which could fail to be stopped. Similar attacks may occur on the rest of NATO, and slowly ebb as Iranian loyalist power diminishes.

The economic consequences of an oil shortage would naturally hit vulnerable targets hardest. Food delivery vehicles might not be able to afford a trip into remote rural areas during a famine, while Europe can rely on electrified modes of transport for day-to-day stuff and reserve oil for essential services.

Countries with more oil, such as Russia and the US, may take advantage of this situation. Ukraine is not looking so good.

At any time, the US could move on to the next crisis and either stretch itself thin or leave the Iranian tributary state without support in what would then be a civil war. Israel will continue its aggression until its funding gets cut and it collapses.

So it goes.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 81 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

What's going on:

Israel and Iran:

  • Israel has terrible relations with virtually every country in the world, and even worse relations with the countries nearby, one of those countries is Iran
  • Iran is the only Shia Muslim country in the world (one where the majority of the population is Shia and the people in power are Shia)
  • There are Shia minorities in many countries, and in some countries the Shia are a majority of the population, but don't have power (Iraq used to be like this, not sure how it is now)
  • Iran supports armed Shia groups outside Iran (Hamas in Palestine, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Houthis in Yemen, etc.)
  • Sometimes these Iran-backed Shia groups act a bit like governments, sometimes like terrorist groups, often a combination of both.
  • Israel shares borders with many countries with Iran-backed militias, so is constantly dealing with low-level conflict with groups linked to (financed by) Iran
  • Iran (quite reasonably) thinks that the only way it will be safe from attack is if it has nuclear weapons, so it has been trying to develop them for years
  • Israel (quite reasonably) doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons, so has been trying to stop them for years, using spying, sabotage, and more recently, direct airstrikes
  • Under Obama, a deal was reached where Iran agreed to stop work on nuclear weapons in exchange for sanctions relief
  • Trump violated the terms of this treaty (as he has violated many other treaties) mainly because Obama signed it, and Trump has personal hatred for anything having to do with Obama
  • With no deal in place, Iran went back to working (at least more openly) on nuclear weapons

Trump, Racists, and Evangelicals:

  • The war against so-called "DEI" has meant any non-white person in an elevated position in the US government and military has been demoted or fired, and an incompetent but politically loyal white person has replaced them
  • DOGE meant eliminating "waste, fraud and abuse", but mostly they eliminated anything they didn't understand, which included soft power (like Voice of America broadcasts in Persian which were received by people in Iran), Iran analysts at the Pentagon, etc.
  • Successfully kidnapping Maduro from Venezuela gave the Trump admin a false sense of confidence
  • Israel has a powerful lobby in the US,
  • Many evangelicals believe that we're in the biblical endtimes, and that the rapture will happen soon. They want the jews to go back to Israel so Jesus can come back and kill them, then they get to go to heaven. Jews being in control of biblical places is a key element of their theory, so they support Israel because they want the world to end.

Israel's latest attacks:

  • Israel attacked Iran last year, and the US joined in, and they claimed this "obliterated" Iran's nuclear program
  • Despite this, the message is always that Iran is days or weeks away from a nuclear weapon, so both things are true: the Israeli/US strikes against Iran were a massive success and Iran's program was obliterated, but Iran is still days or weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon
  • The Trump admin was trying to negotiate a new treaty with Iran, but wasn't making much progress because the negotiators were unqualified idiots: a real estate developer (Steve Witkoff) and Trump's son in law (Jared Kushner)
  • Israel saw another opportunity to take out targets in Iran recently, so they attacked, and the US felt the need to join in, despite being in the middle of negotiations

Hormuz

  • Many countries in the middle east only have major ports inside the Persian Gulf, and no way to get goods in or out without passing by the Strait of Hormuz
  • Getting into the gulf means getting past the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran can easily control, it's only 50km coast-to-coast in some places
  • Iran, at best, has non-hostile relationships with the rest of the Persian Gulf countries, so it doesn't risk much by sinking any ship passing by in the Gulf

What's Next:

  • Who knows
  • The US went into the conflict without a goal
  • Israel went into it with goals (destroy the ability for Iran to finance militias on Israel's border, force them to focus on issues back home), but achieving its goals might make things even worse for the US
  • Iran is facing an existential threat, so it's unlikely to back down, and it's not really like the US can escalate without actually invading
  • In any invasion, the US would be badly hurt, Iran has a population of almost 100 million, 660 thousand active military, and 350 thousand reserves
  • Any invasion would also serve to have Iranians rally around their country
  • Many Iranians (especially urban ones) hate the theocratic regime, but they've seen how after US "interventions" nearby countries have collapsed into chaos. Stability under a hated theocratic leader is much preferable to chaos, so they're unlikely to rise up
  • There are groups inside Iran who might fight (the Kurds for example), but they've been repeatedly burned by the US, over and over, going back decades, so they're not going to take promises from the US seriously
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Most of this is solid, the only thing I question is the whole Iran was working on nuclear weapons.

Everything I've heard from non Trump sources was that they were not actively developing and were honoring the Obama deal.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting, I didn't realize that. I thought all of the groups Iran supported were Shia.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Hamas is the exception. It is a branch of the muslim brotherhood

[–] tronx4002@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Perfect summary, and had a laugh from your description the Evangelicals goals

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would be funny if they weren't actually trying to bring about the biblical end-times. Also, they don't care at all about the future because they don't believe that the future will exist, since we're in endtimes.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They need to accept the rapture has already happened. All the good religious people have already ascended. This is why all of the religious people who are still here suck.

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[–] littleomid@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

👏👏👏👏👏

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

That’s a pretty solid answer - well done.

[–] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Really easy to understand info there thanks

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Why: I think it's mostly a matter of trump wanting to make a name for himself outside of his maga cult. Neocons never liked him, and he hopes this might change it. Plus, a dose of realpolitik in an effort to seem tough usually works.

When: It will have to end soon, otherwise he'll be shitting in his base. However, while wanting to pull back he'll realize he has two choices:

  • Declare "victory" and leave the regime still in power, leaving people (his base included) asking what all these tax dollars were spent on
  • Keep going, losing more and more support from his isolationist base and then some

How: Airstrikes will continue until the paragraph above has been addressed. And since Trump never reads history, he's probably way too optimistic, never realizing this simple fact: No country/regime has ever unconditionally surrendered because of conventional airstrikes and bombardment alone.

To quote Sarah Paine (renowned military scholar and historian), once you put your enemy on death ground, meaning they will have to fight on or (probably) die, they will not surrender. Trump never offered the Iran regime an offramp, and while it sucks to be in Iran right now, they have no incentive to surrender.

[–] mj_marathon@programming.dev 48 points 2 days ago (5 children)

There's also nothing to indicate that Iran would completely reopen the strait even if the US up and fucked off. What incentive do they have at this point to return to the old status quo?

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

And even if Iran changed their minds, it's not like the mines will just disappear

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What incentive do they have at this point to return to the old status quo?

If the US fucks off, then Iran is left in a powerful negotiation position. They could use this incident to help normalize relations with other gulf states by pointing out how the US and Israel started the fight, then left them all high and dry. They could make non-agression and safe passage deals with the gulf states as well as exhert real pressure against the normalization of relations with Israel.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

And just like that...

[–] rosco385@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago

Exactly! In for a penny, in for a pound. Iran will likely punish their neighbors who've been hosting US bases further before a ceasefire.

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[–] obey@lemmy.wtf 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like putin and ukraine. Just gotta keep killing people to save his ego

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[–] amio@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

When you say "his isolationist base" I know that was a talking point early on. Will any part of his base hold him accountable for literally anything ever, though? I would've assumed his base is now ecstatic about doing some warmongering no matter what he said five minutes ago?

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Time will show. There are some shitheads, such as Nick Fuentes, who have publicly disavowed Trump, and even Alex Jones is having a hard time defending Trump these days. Defection are happening, but any long term effect will probably be seen via a slow trickle and not a sudden drop in approval rating.

The truth is, most people don't stay up to date on the news, so while the base probably won't notice that the current Trump talking points are inconsistent at best, come a year or two and they will probably notice that they are objectively worse off after Trump decided to spend billions on a war with Iran for dubious benefits. We will never see a point of "That's it, fuck you!" on xitter. Suddenly the support will lose critical mass and fade into the background just like the teaparty did.

I'm cautiously optimistic stemming from the fact that ideologies based on hate never succeed in the long run. They either fizzle out, eat themselves, or on rare occasions implode spectacularly.

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Rectoplasm

Nice choice of words. Now I have a new band to listen to.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that most Trump voters support isolationism symbolically. They want a leader who prioritizes them rather than perceived others, but they don't actually have a strong opinion about specific foreign policies per se. Attacking Iran does challenge that symbolism, but in the absence of direct effects on their own lives, their trust in Trump's established "America first" reputation will go a long way.

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[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Iirc there's a false flag on us soil coming

[–] Nickelalloy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I will just leave my comment here as a little time stamp.

But yes, as a way to justify for actions from the US and distract the public.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

why would they need a false flag? they're shooting bombs already

[–] loomi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Make Americans angry enough to forget they are against this and Trump lied about “no new wars” and $20 / gallon gas

[–] greenbit@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

To push the next control method

9/11 didn’t just make people support war in the Middle East, it also made them support a whole bunch of surveillance within the USA under the guise of “preventing another 9/11 by catching the terrorist activity before they hurt anyone.” Of course, they’ve used this increased surveillance against dissidents far more than to stop terrorists. If there was a “terrorist attack” on USA soil again, then the GOP and congress would absolutely jump on the opportunity to enact broad voter id laws, facial recognition software, and age/id verification online laws while claiming its to protect “terrorist immigrants from voting in elections and tracking terrorists irl and online.” They would probably also use it to justify even more intense ICE operations and harassment, painting anyone who goes against the Trump admin and his gestapo force as terrorists or terrorist sympathizers. They’re already trying to do all of this, they just lack broad public support, but a false flag operation might be how they try to gain that support

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 9 points 1 day ago

Israel conducted a decades long blackmail scheme from the 80s into the forseeable future. They used this blackmail of the world's most rich and powerful combined with information from decades of government software contracts and spying to control the US, UK and other governments to do a long list of things including tell Donald and Benjamin to start this war.

TL;DR Operation Epstein Fury should credit Israel and the Maxwells

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Iran has control of and does not appear to be giving up, control of the straight of Hormuz. Basically then entire global economy hinges on this one geographically and physically limiting body of water. Any even elementary student of strategy knows this, has known this, and anyone advising world powers would be well aware of the implications of attacking Iran as the Americans and Israelis have done. As far as impacts you will likely feel, in the nearest time frame, this is the most relevant. 20% of global trade goes though this passage. The majority of oil going to south east Asia, China, Japan, Australia passes through this straight.

Like, I don't really think its valuable to conjecture whats going on behind the eyelids of the administration, but they clearly misunderstood how vulnerable they were in this regard. The US dollar is suspending through enforcement of the petro-dollar: That the GCC nations are captured in the sense that they must trade oil in dollars. The value of the USD as form of fiat is elevated because of this. The GCC nations are all entirely dependent on the straight of Hormuz for effectively all calories going to those countries. These nations simply do not exist without access to the straight. They are also coupled with the fact that for all practical purposes, all of their water is from desalination plants; plants much more easily targeted as Iran has been both a) targeting radar and detection instillation throughout the region, and b) wearing down interceptor stocks.

While Israel basically tricked America into starting this war, its truly been one of their regional goals for decades. However, both Israel and the US suffer from extreme hubris in relationship to their capabilities, its clear both parties have misunderstood the mindset of the Islamic Republic. Both parties (Israel and the US) are used to negotiating with parties that will do practically anything to deescalate the situation. Iran is not like this. As a point of analysis, Iran (I think rightfully) considers what Israel and the US are doing as a war of extermination, and they've seen from other regional examples (Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Lebanon) what works and what doesn't work with regards to resisting US/ Israeli hegemony. And we see them doing seems to be very informed by this. In-spite of the power imbalance, Iran has a clear path to victory here and the US has basically none. So long as Iran can keep the straight closed and keep GCC nations shook, the US has no path to victory through air control alone.

What will happen next is:

  • Even if the straight were to open tomorrow, we're looking at 3 months + of global disruption and we have recent historic precedent for this. See the Evergreen and the Suez canal. And that was with all parties cooperating to re-open the canal as soon as possible.

  • Prices are going to skyrocket and inflation is going to go back to being at risk of spiraling out of control. This is going to be like covid, but also not like covid, in that we don't have the buffer in interest rates we did had built in the pre-covid times. The US can not both lower rates and prevent inflation. Its not clear there is any path the US can take financially.

  • Before the cold war, full blown wars would often last decades. The period of the cold-war and post-coldwar era are not reflective of how wars are fought historically. Modern war is focused on the doctrine of shock and awe: Dominate the air, use extremely impressive high tech weaponry, and forms of "omnipotent" systems (Wheres Daddy?, Satellite imagery, RF signature analysis ect). The shock-and-awe doctrine is to orchestrate the appearance of such dominance, the other party loses the narrative. However, with a few notable exceptions, this doctrine does not work against an opponent who is determined to resist (See Vietnam, Iraq one, Iraq two, Afghanistan, Hezbollah, etc..). The approach that the US and Israel are dependent upon has been repeatedly demonstrated to fail against a determined opponent. The US will lose this war.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You aren't the first person, but can you please define your abbreviations no one who needs to read your post knows at all what GCC

For those who don't know

Gulf Cooperation Council

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Your correct and since this is no stupid questions, I should have defined that.

[–] SwampYankee@feddit.online 13 points 2 days ago

This is probably the best comment here so far. To emphasize the interceptor missile point, the US yesterday pulled interceptor systems from South Korea. You know, the place next to the nuclear-armed country that likes to lob missiles into the ocean just to show off. It should go without saying how dire the situation is if the US is redeploying interceptors from South Korea. Once interceptor stocks are depleted, Iran will be able to consistently, successfully strike targets inside US allied territory. There are some rumblings that Iran's success rate is already increasing. Once this happens, Iran has the US & Israel backed into a corner even more than they already do.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

While Israel basically tricked America into starting this war,

I'm happy with most of your analysis, but this bit bugs me. It seems like a lot of people are eager to avoid American agency when it comes to Trump and his actions - he's dismissed as a literal agent of Putin, the Russians are blamed for having manipulated the electorate, Musk interfered with the election count directly, it's all the billionaries' fault. And now America was apparently "tricked" into killing the leaders of a government by that very government.

No, America owns this.

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[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hiii so basically they fired everyone in the administration who said “Iran will curb stomp the US for many reasons, so like, don’t start a war with them” and then decided to start a war with them

One of the many reasons is that Iran preeeeety much has unilateral control over this extremely interesting geographic feature called “The Straight of Hormuz” which has been one of the most important strategic chokepoints in the world for literally thousands of years. Right at the moment the big thing it’s choking is some crazy number like 20% of the entire oil and natural gas supply for the entire planet earth.

So naturally the first thing that is already happening is gas prices skyrocketing. Of note: the way they’re controlling the straight is with missiles. So we’re also seeing extreme amounts of environmental destruction from the tankers that have exploded

What’s gonna happen long term is anyone’s guess

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

So it’s very hard to illustrate all this in an online forum thread… So I’m gonna try and sort of simplify..

For a very long timeIsrael has been very concerned that Iran will develop nuclear weapons, as they should be.

Iran has been executing a proxy war against Israel for 50 years.

Part of that proxy war involves a number of different organizations, one of which is basically in control of Palestine.

The Obama administration negotiated a treaty with Iran that lifted a number of sanctions if they allowed international inspectors to prevent them from enriching uranium, which is a key step in creating nuclear weapons.

The Trump administration in partnership with Israel View that as an absolute disaster.

So they ended the agreement. Which basically opened the door for a Iran to enrich uranium.

Israel has been wanting to bomb Iranian nuclear production sites for decades.

All those sites are underground.

The only country with the ability to bomb shit underground and destroy it is the United States.

One of the most dynamic military leaders in the history of man was an Iranian general who organized and managed that broad coalition of different organizations against Israel. It really is a feat and how well he managed and did all that.

The US military killed him in an airstrike.

The US military has destroyed……. Well, bombed a number of the facilities that iran is enriching or uranium in.

The US military has also killed a number of the political leaders in Iran that’s what’s really messy.

You have to leave the guys alive to turn things off…. There’s no one left to turn things off

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You forgot the bit where they're trying to distract everyone from the Epstein files and the bit where they literally have no plan.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US miscalculated by listening to Netanyahu 40 year old powerpoint for some reason.

Killing Ayatolahs and grade school girls was an intentional act to galvanize Iranian unity behind IRGC to fight longer and privilege to spend more on weapons industry. This was best scenario for US oil industry to hike prices as Trump says "the more we fuck up world, the more money we make"

Problem: Iran has power to control global economy, and strike through Israel defenses, and fuck over GCC US colonies that have historically bribed the US, and Trump specifically, to protect them. All US bases in region are destroyed.

The US has not only failed to protect its non-Israeli allies, it has cannibalized missile defense systems from Asia to better protect Israel. It is utterly incapable of having any influence on critical global shipping channel that is the Straits of Hormuz next to Iran.

Bahrain opened its demonic zionazi pig fucker fuck face to UN to condemn Iran but not axis of evil for their problems. Zionazi axis agreed with them, but they got proper fucked 3 hours later.

TO HAPPEN NEXT:

US needs a denuclearized Iran to give Trump a "declaration of victory". Only path is to buy Iran's enriched uranium for $10M per kg, or about $6B for current estimated stockpiles, and so effectively pay reparations to Iran as their current maximalist demands include. Lifiting sanctions/embargoes is necessarily part of the deal.

GCC stop being zionazi stooges, because Israel has demonstrated that their destruction is more important to US than the US protection they were bribing for. US won't even pretend to GAF about them and offer to pay for reconstructing infrastructure or their bases. GCC joins BRICS and allies with Iran. Israel gets less ambitious about Greater Israel, and worries about little Israel.

The hard question is how does Israel and its US puppet rulership handle Israel's failure, and collapse of US power illusion? Zionazi DNC funding increases, and DNC wins mid terms, and US focuses on preserving little Israel, while keeping us educated on Holocaust and anti-Semitism, is a meh outcome to lay low for the next offensive on humanity.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All US bases in the region are destroyed?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Yes. verified by satellite, though not a giant crater. Rather key building heavily damaged and radars unusable. Radars is special equipment through US contractors, but rest of base can be repaired with local labour. Still, colonies view of the bases is that it makes them a target without any protection use/value at all. If US still had good relations with GCC, there would be a congressional bill or emergency budget allocation dedicated to their reconstruction already.

GCC is not just key to world economy. It is key to US financialization bubble/success, and the ones Trump was boasting will be paying for MAGA. Among pure direct bribes to Trump, a $400M plane, $500M for a crypto scam, and funding Zionazi Elison's takeover of TikTok, Paramount/WB. Their betrayal is so extreme, that they are certain to shift alliance to China/BRICS who will outbid the US for GCC friendship.

[–] mech@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Iran refused to sell oil using US$ as currency and supplied Hamas with missiles to shoot at Israel. So they were a pain in the US' and Israel's ass.
When spies found out that Iran's leadership would meet in a place that isn't underground, and Iran's ally Russia was kinda busy, the US saw a rare opportunity to decapitate the state. For political reasons they asked Israel to strike first.
That was about as much thought as went into the attack.
Iran struck out against every US and Israeli ally in range and closed the straight of Hormus in retaliation, which blocks 20% of global oil trade.

No one in the world knows what happens next, which is kinda typical in wars.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 2 days ago

Israel wants to des stabilize Iran and become the uncontested regional power on the middle east towards their Great Israel goal.

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